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Re: [OM] TECHNIES : A query about sharpening after scanning slides

Subject: Re: [OM] TECHNIES : A query about sharpening after scanning slides
From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 08:43:02 +0100
Dear Moose, my query was indeed about sharpening.

Noise and grain I can deal with :-)

Thanks

Amities

Philippe



> Le 15 déc. 2020 à 21:55, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> 
> It's my experience that there are multiple things to consider here.
> 
> One is dust and scratches. This was the subject of your query 25 months ago, 
> to which I wrote a lengthy reply.
> 
> Next is noise and/or grain. A modest amount in old photos looks normal, 
> perhaps even an asset.
> 
> BUT, when you want to sharpen, the sharpening doesn't know the difference 
> between noise/grain and subject detail, so almost all sharpening apps sharpen 
> the grain, too.
> 
> So if you ask about sharpening, you need to be asking about NR, too.
> 
> On 12/14/2020 7:51 AM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> I just  noticed your inquiry that came in a little bit ago.  So, the list 
>> has life.
>> 
>> I passed my old scanner on to another Lugger because I had scanned all that 
>> were worth saving.  But, for sharpening, I find that Topaz Denoise   AI, 
>> though not free, is the best I've ever used, and is constantly being 
>> improved.  I use it as a PS filter.
>> 
> 
> Why does Jim offer a NR product in response to a question about sharpening? 
> Because Topaz Denoise AI is much more than just NR. It offers three different 
> models for NR, each with separate controls for NR, sharpening and post 
> processing detail recovery.
> 
> For example, Mode 1, used on low ISO digital images, with settings of 
> moderate NR, no sharpening and some detail recovery is pure magic in bringing 
> out clear, sharp fine detail.
> 
> It does take a little practice to find how it works with any particular type 
> of image file. Once found, the settings may be use repetitively on other 
> similar files.
> 
> I don't use the Sharpening options in Denoise AI - because Topaz Sharpening 
> AI is so good. As with Denoise, three different modes/models for sharpening. 
> All useful. Where there's been subtle movement blurring, the Stabilize Mode 
> is often amazing.
> 
> I've tried quite a number of sharpening apps, including the PixelGenius Piers 
> mentions and the latest versions in PS. The ones that stand out are the 
> pinnacle, Topaz AI and DxO PhotoLab.
> DxO's Raw NR is seldom, but on occasion, as good or better than Topaz. DxO 
> sharpening seems to include some form of deconvolution, using their own lens 
> profiles. It's really quite good, but not as versatile or effective as Topaz.
> 
> There are times when "You get what you pay for." is true. This is an instance 
> where the paid option is a great deal better.
> 
> Quiet Sharp Moose
> 
>> On 12/14/20 9:26 AM, Philippe wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I’m looking for proven software that actually works for sharpening scans, 
>>> mainly slides at the moment.
>>>   The ideal candidate should be running on a Mac, possibly from LR, and 
>>> optionally be freeware ...
>>> 
>>> Thanks in anticipation for sharing your practices as I have read tests but 
>>> prefer to rely on hands-on experience from trusted sources, i.e, you :-)
> 
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