Chuck,
Our cousin who was so impressed with IS (if you refer to my original
narrative) has been waiting for used 5D bodies to drop below
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Chuck Norcutt
<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I too appreciate thumb and index finger controls. I've never even seen
> an E-3 other than in pictures but the Minolta A1 has a similar layout
> and I liked that much more than the big jog wheel which is prone to
> accidental change unless you set the power switch in the correct
> position to prevent it... something I almost always forget to do.
>
> But in any case I wouldn't trade my big sensor for those ergonomic dials.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
> Joel Wilcox wrote:
>> Chris,
>> I think I spoke to the subjective assessment before your reply to
>> Chuck came through. I would add that I didn't notice any particular
>> difficulty in handling the 5D MkII, but I am not especially fussy
>> about that kind of thing. It felt "weird" to handle the MkII but I
>> don't doubt I could get used to it. In my opinion, the layout of
>> controls on the E-3 is "better." I think the big jog dial on the
>> Canaan is clumsy and old-fashioned and much prefer the dials that
>> allow quick action via both thumb and index finger on the E-3. But
>> Canaan users, I gather, appreciate the fact that controls don't
>> substantially change between models.
>>
>> I might add -- and have no idea how you feel about it -- that I am
>> always delighted to handle the E-3. I seems to me to have the
>> ergonomics of the E-1 but with improvement/advancement, despite the
>> increase in weight. My only snag so far has been that the sensor for
>> the remote (RM-1) is not as easy to trigger as on the E-1 or E-330.
>>
>> Joel W.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Chuck, but I suppose that I was looking for a subjective
>>> assessment of the feel between the 2 rather than an objective summary
>>> of their dimensions.
>>>
>>> There again, I have never seen a 5D, let alone handled one. I don't
>>> suppose that I have missed much by that omission ... :-)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 2 Jan 2009, at 14:08, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5D Mark II $2700 ($2000 for 5D)
>>>> Dimensions 152 x 114 x 75 mm (6.0 x 4.5 x 2.9 in)
>>>> Weight (no battery) 810 g (29oz)
>>>>
>>>> Olympus E3 $1429
>>>> Dimensions 142 x 116 x 75 mm (5.6 x 4.6 x 2.9 in)
>>>> Weight (no battery) 800 g (28oz)
>>>>
>>>> There's very little difference in size and weight. It's interesting
>>>> to
>>>> note that the difference in width (10mm) is less than the difference
>>>> in
>>>> sensor width (18.7mm). Maybe the E3 needs that for the anti-shake.
>>>>
>>>> So, not much difference in the bodies but what happens when you add an
>>>> equivalent pair of high end constant aperture lenses? One weighs
>>>> more,
>>>> the other weighs less. The E3 body costs much less but the lenses
>>>> cost
>>>> much more. But the Zuikos are a stop faster although not so wide on
>>>> the
>>>> wide end.
>>>>
>>>> Canon 24-70/2.8L 4.9" (124mm) x 3.3" (83mm) - 34oz (950g) $1039
>>>> Canon 70-200/2.8L* 7.7" (196mm) x 3.4" (86mm) - 51oz (1458) $1488
>>>>
>>>> Zuiko 14-35/2.0 4.8" (123mm) x 3.4" (86mm) - 32oz (915g)
>>>> $1852
>>>> Zuiko 35-100/2.0* 8.4" (214mm) x 3.8" (97mm) - 58oz (1650g) $1950
>>>>
>>>> *without Tripod Adapter
>>>>
>>>> Total weight and cost for body and two lenses
>>>> 5D Mark II 3218g (114oz) $5227 ($4527 for 5D)
>>>> E3 - 3365g (119oz) $5231
>>>>
>>>> So, the E3 and a pair of fast lenses weighs more and costs more than
>>>> the
>>>> 5D Mark II and its pair of 1 stop slower lenses. And quite a bit more
>>>> than a 5D and the same lenses. When I bought OM in the '70s it was
>>>> because it was smaller, lighter and cheaper. It seems that Olympus has
>>>> lost its way on small, light and cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a better comparison would be with the 12-60/2.8-4 and
>>>> 50-200/2.8-3.5 but there the Zuikos have lost their speed advantage
>>>> and
>>>> are no longer constant aperture.
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