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Re: [OM] 85mm deliberate coma design

Subject: Re: [OM] 85mm deliberate coma design
From: Wayne Shumaker <om3ti@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 08:58:16 -0700
At 9/25/2022 06:14 AM, Mike wrote:

>The second link mentions the final version with 5 elements and the latest 
>multi- coating is with  sn> 200,000.   What they didnâ??t mention is that some 
>of the 5 element versions have â??MCâ?? on it but an earlier multi-coat.  Mine 
>is sn about 128K. I bought mine from esteemed list member Jaap Korten.
>There is a table somewhere with the sn of each flavor.   
>The lens is known as the Olympus  Sonnar though a true Sonnar design was not 
>possible.  It renders very nicely and quite sharp at F2.8 but still not too 
>unforgiving for portraits. Jane Bown used it at F2.8 exclusively to produce 
>portraits of the Queen.  It is known as â??The Queenâ??s Lensâ?? in our house.
>
>   The Z 85/2 seems to tolerate some extension nicely for macro due to the 
> floating element design. The CV 90 in OM mount is better in that capacity, 
> however. 

I believe this is correct, from what I have searched online. Supposedly the 
floating element was to improve the lens for closer focus and be better for 
portraits.

Some of what I got was from phillip reeve's site
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/guide-to-classic-olympus-om-zuiko-lenses-on-film-and-sony-full-frame/

To quote:
"This is the later 5 element redesign. Don?t fall prey to the assumption that 
just because it has fewer elements it?s worse. As time goes on designs improve 
so you can get better or the same performance with fewer elements. There is no 
evidence that later redesigns were the result of cost cutting. It seems to me 
to have the same bokeh as the previous version, and a bit better resolution and 
contrast, though some disagree. The ?Zuiko MC? version has the later design as 
well as this last version, just perhaps different coatings from the final 
version."

The >200,000 version may just be with different coatings. This note from 
photo.net
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/olympus-om-85mm-f2-the-om-sonnar.460561/

"Interesting information. One thing to keep in mind however, there are two 
optically different versions of the 85/2. The original single coated version, 
serial numbers up through 115,000 use a 6 element in 4 group design. The later 
multicoated versions (serial numbers over 115,000) used a 5 element in 4 group 
design. Instead of the 2nd group (starting from the front of the lens) being a 
cemented doublet, it was changed to a single element, same exterior 
shape/dimensions. ..."

so the 5 element version, supposedly sharper, could be 115,000 and later.

WayneS



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