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Re: [OM] OM-D EM-5 review at dpreview

Subject: Re: [OM] OM-D EM-5 review at dpreview
From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 17:40:10 -0500
I, too, have abandoned Oly. What I wanted was what many others did, a camera 
that is exactly the same size as my OM-4Ti, with the same controls, and a 
full frame sensor so my lenses are the same view as they were. I would have 
paid 6,000 or 7,000, but instead, I went to Nikon and Leica. By Bye, Oly. No 
more of my money, but I'm probably not in their target market.

Bill Pearce

-----Original Message----- 
From: Piers Hemy
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:20 PM
To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion'
Subject: Re: [OM] OM-D EM-5 review at dpreview

You know, I suspect that the market for $1800 lens adapters is those same 10
people. But the problem is the market for $180 lens adapters is probably not
that different! OK, maybe it's 100 - let's be optimistic, make it 1000. Not
much sense in going after that kind of market for Olympus, eh?

Yes, quite a few of "us" have gone the 5D route. 10? And of those, how many
are using manual focus lenses (whether OM or others)? How well-equipped is
the 5D screen with manual focus aids? No, I thought not, so it's back to
plain ground-glass - and how does that compare to a 2-4 screen? Yup, just as
I expected - the 5D is designed for AF lenses, and manual focus lenses just
don't work very easily. Although I don't have personal experience of the 5D,
and would be very pleased to be proven wrong (the more so as 5D prices ought
to be going lower and lower).

But as for Olympus "marginaliz[ing] themselves almost entirely out of the
business" I have to take issue firstly with your choice of the word
'business', and secondly, if it is a 'business' that it was one that Olympus
had any 'business' (in a different sense) chasing! Yes, it was very
disappointing at the time to hear that we could not use OM lenses on the
E-1. And it seemed to be a case of sour grapes when they eventually released
the MA-1 adapter together with that restrictive list of recommended
apertures (f/4 - f/8 only for the 90/2; f/5.6 - f/8 for the 100/2.8 and the
35-80/2.8). But you know what? Having used OM lenses on the E-1 and
experienced the problems in focusing and metering, I think they knew what
they were talking about. I didn't see anything to deserve the description
"near riot", nor to justify "error of their ways".

Piers

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 May 2012 20:26
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] OM-D EM-5 review at dpreview

> The market for $800 lens adapters is perhaps 10 people.

OK, I'm one of those 10 people who would gladly pay $800. But, by the same
token, there is probably only 20 or 30 people willing to spend
$7000 on a digital rangefinder camera.

Seriously, if somebody from Olympus Skunkworks were to offer me such an
adaptor, I'd pay a premium much higher than $800. Maybe that makes me one of
probably five people in the world. But I doubt that.

If the transaction for a full-frame camera occurs for me in the next few
weeks, then it's all over with and I won't even be one of those five or ten
people.

Just look at the number of people on this list alone (and we're just a tiny
microcosm of Olympus users) who bought Canon 5D bodies because of the
full-frame aspect and the ability to use Zuikos as intended. The problem is
that many of them did so under that original intent but then ended up buying
EOS lenses. Once the EOS lenses were purchased, these users are now pretty
much locked into that system here on out.
Olympus lost out entirely. By attempting to protect their own lens sales,
they marginalized themselves almost entirely out of the business. Just look
how difficult it was for them to even release the OM-E glassless adapter. It
took a near riot for them to understand the error of their ways.

AG
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