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Re: [OM] How to take proper product pics outside (WB?)

Subject: Re: [OM] How to take proper product pics outside (WB?)
From: Charles Geilfuss <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:40:11 -0400
  Thanks for the info Chuck, but I doubt it's a hand grenade. Looks too
small and appears to thread in to something else. Antediluvian wooden spark
plug? ;^)

Charlie

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Chuck Norcutt <
chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Olafo has hundreds or thousands (?) or pieces, well, a big bunch at
> least, of WWII Japanese ordnance to be photographed.  I suspect the one
> shown is a hand grenade.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
> On 10/22/2010 8:56 AM, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
> > Olafo,
> >    I haven't been following this thread closely so I may have missed it.
> Just
> > what is the item in the photo? I don't recognize it at all.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Olaf Greve<ogreve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Chuck and others,
> >>
> >> Good news!
> >> Last Friday the swivel heads came in, and yesterday the brolly boxes
> >> arrived. :)
> >>
> >> Spare time seems to be "sparse time", so I've only had about 15
> >> minutes to play with the set-up (though I hope to get around to it
> >> some more over the weekend).
> >>
> >> There were a few unforeseen issues in the set-up, for which I'll have
> >> to figure out a solution:
> >>
> >> 1) I mounted the brolly boxes on the swivel heads with the flashes; no
> >> problem. But... the umbrellas are wide and the tripod legs are
> >> preventing the umbrellas from being angled at some 45 degrees from
> >> above. I may figure out an easy way around this, but I certainly
> >> welcome suggestions.
> >> Either way: this issue caused the umbrellas (and flashes) to be
> >> shooting perpendicularly from the table top (i.e. from the side of the
> >> subject, but then positioned higher than the subject, so it's not from
> >> the very side).
> >>
> >> 2) The daylight was just starting to fade and the location where I was
> >> taking the pictures was relatively dark. This caused great
> >> difficulties for the Auto Focus to do its work. The built in flash
> >> cannot pop up, as the flash shoe cable (T-cord) blocks it. I guess I
> >> could use an external (small) lamp to make focussing easier, but then
> >> I'd be throwing incandescent light into the mix. I tried manual
> >> focussing but that's pretty tough too. I guess I need to shoot during
> >> the daytime then...
> >>
> >> Then, the set-up was:
> >> E-500 + 14-45 F3.5-5.6, Manual, 1/160 @ f5.6, ISO 100, two T20s, one
> >> to the left, one to the right of the subject, both firing into the
> >> brolly boxes, coming straight from the side. Distance from flash to
> >> diffuser (i.e. round part of the umbrella) +/- 20 cm, distance of
> >> diffuser to subject +/- 25 cm.
> >>
> >> The results are pretty pleasing, but not perfect. If you consider this
> >> shot (full size, unedited):
> >> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718.JPG
> >>
> >> The WB was not yet set properly; in reality, the backdrop is plain
> >> white.
> >>
> >> Now, my two main issues with the pictures are:
> >> 1) Some shadows still occur. This was surprising to me. Perhaps the
> >> high, perpendicular, position of the flashes relative to the subject,
> >> caused that? Is this something that can easily be improved (reflector?
> >> 45 degree angles from above? something else?)
> >> 2) Another unexpected issue are the two 'gleam' lines running over the
> >> length of the subject.
> >>
> >> To illustrate this, consider:
> >> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718_with_comments.jpg
> >>
> >> Could it perhaps be that the light was not diffuse enough?
> >>
> >> Any ideas how I can improve this?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Olafo
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