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Subject: Re: [OM] How to take proper product pics outside (WB?)
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:48:03 -0400
Olafo has hundreds or thousands (?) or pieces, well, a big bunch at 
least, of WWII Japanese ordnance to be photographed.  I suspect the one 
shown is a hand grenade.

Chuck Norcutt

On 10/22/2010 8:56 AM, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
> Olafo,
>    I haven't been following this thread closely so I may have missed it. Just
> what is the item in the photo? I don't recognize it at all.
>
> Charlie
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Olaf Greve<ogreve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Chuck and others,
>>
>> Good news!
>> Last Friday the swivel heads came in, and yesterday the brolly boxes
>> arrived. :)
>>
>> Spare time seems to be "sparse time", so I've only had about 15
>> minutes to play with the set-up (though I hope to get around to it
>> some more over the weekend).
>>
>> There were a few unforeseen issues in the set-up, for which I'll have
>> to figure out a solution:
>>
>> 1) I mounted the brolly boxes on the swivel heads with the flashes; no
>> problem. But... the umbrellas are wide and the tripod legs are
>> preventing the umbrellas from being angled at some 45 degrees from
>> above. I may figure out an easy way around this, but I certainly
>> welcome suggestions.
>> Either way: this issue caused the umbrellas (and flashes) to be
>> shooting perpendicularly from the table top (i.e. from the side of the
>> subject, but then positioned higher than the subject, so it's not from
>> the very side).
>>
>> 2) The daylight was just starting to fade and the location where I was
>> taking the pictures was relatively dark. This caused great
>> difficulties for the Auto Focus to do its work. The built in flash
>> cannot pop up, as the flash shoe cable (T-cord) blocks it. I guess I
>> could use an external (small) lamp to make focussing easier, but then
>> I'd be throwing incandescent light into the mix. I tried manual
>> focussing but that's pretty tough too. I guess I need to shoot during
>> the daytime then...
>>
>> Then, the set-up was:
>> E-500 + 14-45 F3.5-5.6, Manual, 1/160 @ f5.6, ISO 100, two T20s, one
>> to the left, one to the right of the subject, both firing into the
>> brolly boxes, coming straight from the side. Distance from flash to
>> diffuser (i.e. round part of the umbrella) +/- 20 cm, distance of
>> diffuser to subject +/- 25 cm.
>>
>> The results are pretty pleasing, but not perfect. If you consider this
>> shot (full size, unedited):
>> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718.JPG
>>
>> The WB was not yet set properly; in reality, the backdrop is plain
>> white.
>>
>> Now, my two main issues with the pictures are:
>> 1) Some shadows still occur. This was surprising to me. Perhaps the
>> high, perpendicular, position of the flashes relative to the subject,
>> caused that? Is this something that can easily be improved (reflector?
>> 45 degree angles from above? something else?)
>> 2) Another unexpected issue are the two 'gleam' lines running over the
>> length of the subject.
>>
>> To illustrate this, consider:
>> http://www.millennics.com/test/PA215718_with_comments.jpg
>>
>> Could it perhaps be that the light was not diffuse enough?
>>
>> Any ideas how I can improve this?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Olafo
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