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Re: [OM] 12-200

Subject: Re: [OM] 12-200
From: Bill Pearce <billpearce@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 02:51:34 -0400 (EDT)
I was a ravel zoom guy, with the 28-48 on the OM. 

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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:18:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [OM] 12-200 

On 6/20/2019 4:54 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote: 
> <<<Yup, 12-60 isn't a long as 12-100. And occasionally, but not too often, I 
> miss that coverage. OTOH, it's optically as good, so don't give anything away 
> there. 

I guess I should have said that, with 20 MP, cropping is seldom a problem. 

> I am skeptical about the long end of the 12-200. 

As you should be. You aren't a travel zoom kind of guy. ;-) 

> It has weather sealing but I wonder if you can put it under a deluge like the 
> 12-100. 

I'll have to say, I wished I'd had a weather sealed body to go with the lens 
when we walked around Zion in the rain. 

> The sync IS with 12-100 is just remarkable!! 

Well the 12-60, in fact, all my Panny zooms, but the 7-14, have Panny's 
version, Dual-IS. Even the 42.5/1.7 has it. I 
don't know of any comparison of dual/sync OIS and IBIS systems. Not sure how 
one would go about making a good 
comparison, with so many FLs and shutter speeds, and the variation in human 
unsteadiness over the tests and between people. 

> Even at F4 the lack of subject isolation ability of the 12-100 can be a pain 
> though. 

A point in favor of the faster 12-60 at the short end. It's a full stop faster 
@ 12 mm, narrowing down to nothing @ 
about 40 mm. 

> It is a tad sharper than the PL 12-60 at the long end as I recall. 

No argument here; it's almost infinitely better at 100 mm than the 12-60. :-D 
As to 60 vs 60 mm, I just don't recall. I 
probably have the comparisons, shot in HR, but they are in practice, both 
excellent. In the field, with all the other 
factors, I think it's a toss-up. I've certainly got some great C-U photos, 
including those with achromat C-U lens and 
focus stacks. For the vast majority of nature close-up/macros, the corners 
don't matter a whit. 

> Here is a Marnie shot from Bhutan with the 12-100: 
> https://www.olyendomike.com/Bhutan-Bangkok-2017/i-GR6KSgG/A 

Hey! That's my lens! Excellent photo! 

> I had to use a Moose processing procedure to improve the bokeh. Marnie wants 
> the reach. 

Makes perfect sense I would, too, if I didn't also carry the PLeica 100-400. 
She should be very happy, going from a 1745 
g. monster camera/lens to an 1135 g. combo with twice the reach. 

> Moose's point about the macro ability of the 12-60 is well taken and it is 
> clearly massively better at this from samples I've seen 

Just for fun, here's a stack taken Sunday, 12-60, Nikon 5T C-U lens, of a 
fleabane flower going to seed. 

> with the 12-20 and I know first hand with the 12-100. The 12-100 did not like 
> my Pentax achromatic diopter but may like the new 
> Siggie one Moose found. The PL is smaller and a better hiking lens but I 
> don't think nearly as weather proof. 

Sure wasn't bothered by the rain in Zion. 

> I think it has dual IS with Panny bodies. 

Indeed, as above. 

> They each have their place, but not sold on the 12-200. 

I'd be far more interested if it had OIS. I've had a lot of fun, and good 
results, with GM5 and Panny 14-140. I just 
discovered I had another gallery of photos from that combo. 

There are a couple of big crops of people shots. I notice now some artifacts in 
one that should be reprocessed in the 
latest DxO, but there's otherwise nothing to complain about. 

Where's the Panny 12-20, with OIS? 

Mixed Up Moose 

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