Evidently, Acid Rain is still a "thing". I have sold several photos of
acid rain damage lately, including another one to National Geographic.
Tina
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:39 PM Ken Norton <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Here on the east side of the Atlantic, I was not aware of the idea that
> > America was regarded as mainly responsible although we are aware that you
> > seem to have a larger lobby of climate change deniers than most, not
> least
> > your President. It is however commonly noted that in the USA peoples'
> views
> > on such matters (or abortion or environmental matters) appear to be much
> > more closely linked to political allegiance than elsewhere.
>
> Tribalism is getting more intense over here. There is not such thing
> as a conversation with anybody that sees things even SLIGHTLY
> differently than you. It will quickly devolve into a "if you voted for
> Trump/Hillary I'm going to unfriend you" type of scenario. In fact,
> there are people on this very list who have said that very thing and I
> just shake my head and say to myself "you are such an idiot."
>
> The problem with discussions about climate change, specifically, is
> that the proponents of "human caused climate change" are wielding it
> like an axe and present themselves as the keepers of all knowledge and
> reason. By setting themselves up as the only intelligent individuals
> in the room, they do little to actually have a conversation and try to
> influence a change of minds. Instead, the attitude is "if you don't
> 100% agree with me or my solutions, you must die."
>
> That's no way to have a conversation.
>
> By telling the other side that they are morons and have no voice in
> the solution, it causes the other side to bunker down and reject
> everything the self-appointed keepers-of-all-wisdom have to say.
>
> Many years ago, I was a supporter/member of the Sierra Club. I was an
> innocent person who actually thought that this organization actually
> wanted to be effective at real issues and concerns. Turns out that
> their only purpose for being (at that time) was to defeat George H.W.
> Bush. Instead of environmental issues, they became a purely political
> organization with absolutely no redeeming value. This came to a head
> when there was a "call to arms" moment on a specific environmental
> issue that was very specific to their charter and they declined to
> have anything to do with it because all of their money and effort was
> being devoted to politics instead. We were literally told to "stand
> down" on what we were doing because they didn't want that
> environmental cleanup effort to be completed before the election.
>
> BTW, some of us can remember when "Acid Rain" was all the
> environmental hype. I guess that doesn't matter anymore...
>
>
> > With regard to climate change itself, I think most people would agree
> that
> > major climate changes have occurred in the last 4+billion years, but we
> > have to remember that man has not been around for most of that time
> > (according to generally accepted modern science), and while some people
> > might survive another ice-age an unmoderated rise in temperatures would
> > appear likely to be disastrous for many and those living near current sea
> > levels (including major capitals like London and New York) amongst the
> > first to suffer.
>
> This would assume two things:
> 1. The human race is NOT adaptive to change.
> 2. The human race is unable to physically move.
>
> An ice age will just mean that "Burlington Coat Factory" will sell
> more coats. Global warming will mean that "Speedo" will sell more
> swimsuits.
>
> Rising waters just means that coastal cities will just migrate up the
> hill over time. All you have to do is look at pictures and maps of
> cities from 50 years ago and you can see just how much they've changed
> in that period. Cities and people are NOT STATIC.
>
> Honestly, if we're REALLY serious about climate change and energy
> waste, we should totally ban Bitcoin and jail or kill everybody
> involved in Bitcoin Mining.
>
> AG Schnozz
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