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Re: [OM] Beattie Out of Business? (now OT)

Subject: Re: [OM] Beattie Out of Business? (now OT)
From: Larry <Halpert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 02:17:10 -0500
That's suppposed to be "who's"    :)

Larry

Larry wrote:

> Actually, I know a LI, NY "middle school" (used to be junior high) Art
> Teacher whose about 53 now, and they pay him $80,000 a year, plus
> additional $7000 if he does a month's summer school. (At an incredible
> salary like that, its tough to hear they don't pay teachers enough - at
> least not here).
>
> "M. Royer" wrote:
>
> >  mother who is a
> > schoolteacher (hint: if you want to make wonderful
> > money as a schoolteacher, work in Madison, NJ over 50%
> > of the 30 million budget goes to paying these guys and
> > the enormous beureacracy that oversees to public
> > shools that is also sickening.) If you're a public
> > teacher outside of northern NJ you don't make crap for
> > salary.
>
> > Mark Lloyd
> >
> > --- Larry <Halpert@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Actually its not true as a fact. A field that has
> > > potential for "good money", +
> > > "hard work" and a "good" school can't hurt but
> > > doesn't really mean anything
> > > unless you compare it to extremes. (No school,
> > > always slacking off, dead end
> > > field). Many many people worked as hard, or even
> > > much harder, went to "better"
> > > schools, etc. but the opportunities just didn't pay
> > > off as well, or they didn't
> > > "know" the "right" people, and other surface
> > > judgementalisms by management, etc.
> > > that are maybe too intangeable to believe in, but
> > > are many times the biggest
> > > factors. Many (not a small percentage) of highly
> > > paid people have not worked too
> > > hard to get there. Of course many have, as well.
> > > Those who have, and assume its
> > > all based on their diligence, will believe in this.
> > > Many at the beginnings of
> > > their career will believe this, fortunately, because
> > > it, like I said, it
> > > definately can't hurt. All in all, its just a
> > > politically correct statement that
> > > everyone is responsible for their own degree of
> > > success. That only can be
> > > factual at times, but hardly always.  Just like
> > > those who believe you "get what
> > > you pay for". Politically correct, but mostly not
> > > true.
> > >
> > > The correct tool for list popularity would be to now
> > > toss dismissive accusations
> > > of "jealousy" and insults at me, pointing out that I
> > > only whine, and my
> > > statements are completely a waste.  This is the
> > > quickest way to "deal" with me,
> > > and get back on track, so have at me, guys.
> > >
> > > Anyway, Tom, I'm glad to have helped enable you to
> > > the E-20. :)
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Good for you Tom!
> > > >
> > > > Bill Stanke
> > > >
> > > > Tom Scales wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I do believe this.  I worked hard
> > > putting myself through a good
> > > > > school. I worked full-time, on the graveyard
> > > shift and went to a tough
> > > > > school, Rice University, during the day. I paid
> > > for it all, school,
> > > > > apartment, everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > I busted my ass and I've been doing it full-time
> > > for 21 years.  Do I make
> > > > > good money? Damn straight.  Was it given to me?
> > > What a laugh. I worked
> > > > for
> > > > > it. Hard.
> > > > >
> > > > > We all make choices in life. I chose a
> > > profession where there was the
> > > > > potential for good money. Not for the money, but
> > > because it interested me.
> > > > > Then I worked hard. For years.
> > > > >
> > > > > And today, just because I wanted it, I bought an
> > > E-20.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > > At 05:20 PM 06/11/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > >In <3BE773AD.97C8DBAD@xxxxxxxxxxx>, on
> > > 11/06/01 at 12:22 AM,
> > > > > > >   Larry <Halpert@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I notice the doctors, and wealthier
> > > businessmen on the
> > > > > > >>list get the most annoyed at those comments
> > > because they only
> > > > > > >>experience floods of money, and truly
> > > believe everyone is responsible
> > > > > > >>for their own degree of success.
> > > > > >
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