At 2/21/2023 10:59 AM, Moose wrote:
>On 2/21/2023 7:57 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
>>At 2/20/2023 10:52 PM, Moose wrote:
>
>>>Somehow, I missed this. The LenBaby Burnside 35 also has a secondaryÃ?
>>>adjustment for vignetting/bokeh, although how similar to the Lomo, I don't
>>>know. Combo of lack of excitement for 35 mm and the name, which doesn't say
>>>anything to me is likely why I missed it.
>>>
>>>The occasion for sharing this minor revelation is that the lens is on B&H
>>>Dealzone special for the next 23 hours, for less than used ones.
>>>
>>>Enabler Moose
>>Some sample photos on flickr with this Lensbaby:
>>https://www.flickr.com/groups/3993926@N22/pool/with/52701946201/
>>Not sure I fully understand the vignette control feature.
>
>
>And I'm not sure anyone does. ð??? Here's a primer on using it from the maker.
><https://lensbaby.com/blogs/creative-photography/burnside-35-a-step-by-step-guide>
> Some reviewer(s) say it's a second diaphragm, further forward than the
>primary one. Others suggest that, in addition to increasing vignetting, it
>enhances bokeh - or not. I suspect that depends on relative subject/background
>distances.
>
>Been reading reviews of their Twist 60, which I have, but have used little. At
>least two of the reviewers while liking it, were also frustrated that the
>subject to be clear must be in the center. Particularly for portraits, it
>limits composition.
>
>LB sells the Twist 60 in a fixed Optic Swap body, and says something negative
>about using it with a flexible angle Composer body. But, Hey, LB is all about
>breaking rules. I've just a couple of test shot sets using slight angles to
>move the "sweet spot" off center. Go very far, and the classic Petzval
>vignetting becomes a problem (or feature). I have indications it works, but
>not a good example as yet.
>
>Both these lenses are classic Petzval optical designs., although the Burnside
>is much wider than the originals.
>
>What I think I may be hunting is unique bokeh that doesn't obviously swirl.
>Got sucked in by the B&H deal. Based on used prices, if I don't like it after
>a while it should sell for no loss. Of course, I say that to myself with every
>deal.
We can provide some psycho-pseudo-therapy to help you get over justifications.
I'm always interested in your explorations.
I have yet to purchase a Lensbaby. Still hoping to find interesting older
lenses. One lens that has become cult status is the Tamron 70-150mm soft focus.
Wouldn't mind getting one, but none available and they are going for premium
prices.
Likewise, unique bokeh and not so much swirl. An interesting way to test lens
bokeh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4wAWUs4Z5Q
I have been following Dhina A on flickr who has interesting lenses.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/photovibes/
Checking her albums, which are organized based on lenses, I notice Vivitar
Series 1 35-85mm f2.8. I believe in the past there was some discussion of this
variable focus lens in OM mount on the list, but I lost most everything before
2011. Back then interesting bokeh was not a main topic while sharpness was.
>>>On 6/5/2022 4:00 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
>>>>One other thing. Is the charm using the vintage lens for a vintage look or
>>>>is it the results that matter? For example, the Meyer-Optik Gorlitz
>>>>Trioplan 100mm f/2.8
>>>>from the 50's or 60's now approaches 50-75% of the new version.
>>>
>>>>https://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/en/lenses/trioplan-100-f2.8-ii
>>>>They are not the same as the new guy has modern coatings and more contrast
>>>>with similar bokeh.
>
>Also, the original has an old style, umpteen blade diaphragm, while the new
>one has fewer. I don't know how that plays out in results.
>
>>I have been following Simon Utak who has quite a few videos on vintage
>>lenses. I believe he said something like: the lack of coatings might be one
>>of the contributing factors for the unique look (my paraphrase). Clearly they
>>do affect contrast.
>
>Easy enough to reduce in post, at least mechanically. I may have a mental
>problem . . . The LBs all appear to have contemporary coatings.
>
>>I have a "supposedly" better version of the 44-2 and some initial shots:
>>https://photos.app.goo.gl/SqkdzGt1hnbLru6Z6
>>Contrast was adjusted.
>
>Up or down?
Up, as with most photos. But it often depends on the profile selected. Here I
just adjusted with levels pulling in the endpoints. I have been using Camera
Standard of late. Sometimes Camera Landscape if I like the boost it gives. 44-2
Lens SN 0151058.
WayneS
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