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Re: [OM] Painterly vintage Lenses

Subject: Re: [OM] Painterly vintage Lenses
From: Wayne Shumaker <om3ti@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 13:48:32 -0700
At 2/21/2023 10:59 AM, Moose wrote:

>On 2/21/2023 7:57 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
>>At 2/20/2023 10:52 PM, Moose wrote:
>>>Somehow, I missed this. The LenBaby Burnside 35 also has a secondaryÃ?  
>>>adjustment for vignetting/bokeh, although how similar to the Lomo, I don't 
>>>know. Combo of lack of excitement for 35 mm and the name, which doesn't say 
>>>anything to me is likely why I missed it.
>>>The occasion for sharing this minor revelation is that the lens is on B&H 
>>>Dealzone special for the next 23 hours, for less than used ones.
>>>Enabler Moose
>>Some sample photos on flickr with this Lensbaby:
>>Not sure I fully understand the vignette control feature.
>And I'm not sure anyone does. ð??? Here's a primer on using it from the maker. 
> Some reviewer(s) say it's a second diaphragm, further forward than the 
>primary one. Others suggest that, in addition to increasing vignetting, it 
>enhances bokeh - or not. I suspect that depends on relative subject/background 
>Been reading reviews of their Twist 60, which I have, but have used little. At 
>least two of the reviewers while liking it, were also frustrated that the 
>subject to be clear must be in the center. Particularly for portraits, it 
>limits composition.
>LB sells the Twist 60 in a fixed Optic Swap body, and says something negative 
>about using it with a flexible angle Composer body. But, Hey, LB is all about 
>breaking rules. I've just a couple of test shot sets using slight angles to 
>move the "sweet spot" off center. Go very far, and the classic Petzval 
>vignetting becomes a problem (or feature). I have indications it works, but 
>not a good example as yet.
>Both these lenses are classic Petzval optical designs., although the Burnside 
>is much wider than the originals.
>What I think I may be hunting is unique bokeh that doesn't obviously swirl. 
>Got sucked in by the B&H deal. Based on used prices, if I don't like it after 
>a while it should sell for no loss. Of course, I say that to myself with every 

We can provide some psycho-pseudo-therapy to help you get over justifications. 
I'm always interested in your explorations.

I have yet to purchase a Lensbaby. Still hoping to find interesting older 
lenses. One lens that has become cult status is the Tamron 70-150mm soft focus. 
Wouldn't mind getting one, but none available and they are going for premium 

Likewise, unique bokeh and not so much swirl. An interesting way to test lens 

I have been following Dhina A on flickr who has interesting lenses.
Checking her albums, which are organized based on lenses, I notice Vivitar 
Series 1 35-85mm f2.8. I believe in the past there was some discussion of this 
variable focus lens in OM mount on the list, but I lost most everything before 
2011. Back then interesting bokeh was not a main topic while sharpness was.

>>>On 6/5/2022 4:00 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
>>>>One other thing.  Is the charm using the vintage lens for a vintage look or 
>>>>is it the results that matter?  For example, the Meyer-Optik Gorlitz 
>>>>Trioplan 100mm f/2.8
>>>>from the 50's or 60's now approaches 50-75% of the new version.
>>>>They are not the same as the new guy has modern coatings and more contrast 
>>>>with similar bokeh.
>Also, the original has an old style, umpteen blade diaphragm, while the new 
>one has fewer. I don't know how that plays out in results.
>>I have been following Simon Utak who has quite a few videos on vintage 
>>lenses. I believe he said something like: the lack of coatings might be one 
>>of the contributing factors for the unique look (my paraphrase). Clearly they 
>>do affect contrast.
>Easy enough to reduce in post, at least mechanically. I may have a mental 
>problem . . . The LBs all appear to have contemporary coatings.
>>I have a "supposedly" better version of the 44-2 and some initial shots:
>>Contrast was adjusted.
>Up or down?

Up, as with most photos. But it often depends on the profile selected. Here I 
just adjusted with levels pulling in the endpoints. I have been using Camera 
Standard of late. Sometimes Camera Landscape if I like the boost it gives. 44-2 
Lens SN 0151058.

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