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Re: [OM] New CAT lens--opinions?

Subject: Re: [OM] New CAT lens--opinions?
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:54:42 -0800
On 1/25/2022 4:04 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2022/01/21/tokina-launches-a-500mm-f-8-mirror-lens-for-six-camera-mounts/

I wonder how it compares in size, resolution to those already out there--Zuiko 
500, Tamron SP  500 CAT or even the Siggie 600?

Newer design with an eye on keeping it small may help  it.

The most obvious new thing it brings to the party is weight.

                          FL    F   Len Dia   Weight Ele/Grp
Tokina    RMC     500    500    8    87    78    485    7/2
          SZ SUPER TELE  500    8    89    74    310    7/7

Olympus   Zuiko Reflex   500    8    97    81    590    5/2

Tamron    55BB           500    8    87    84    535    7/2
            With Nikon mount         91.5

Sigma     600            600    8   124    92.5  750

The Tokina RMC was one of the undifferentiated middle ground in the Modern Tests. Not optically up to the Oly, but significantly smaller and lighter. The new one is the same size, but much lighter.

I'm guessing that those old designs still minimized air/glass surfaces to minimize light loss and reflections. Coatings have come a loooonng way since then. Looks like they have taken advantage of that with almost all thin, separate elements to drop a lot of glass weight. https://tokinalens.com/product/sz_super_tele_500mm_f8_reflex_mf/

Might give improved contrast, as well, although that's not important any more.

I'm not a fan of mirror lenses (I only have four  😉 ) I've very seldom got good results with them. The Meade 1000/11 has impressive reach, but the Oly 100-400 with MC14 is longer, faster, optically better, hand holdable and does AF/EXIF.

If I'd been doing my Alt stuff back then, perhaps I'd have kept the Tamron 350/5.6. I couldn't get a straight shot with it that I liked.

The OM 500/8 is a beautiful thing, lovely to handle, but not optically as good 
as my 100-400 zooms.

 I'll easily give this new one a pass. 😁

At first glance it did not seem to be a standard T mount by  based on the 
adapters,

I don't see why not. DSLR T mount adapters are short, mirrorless, long.

  but judging by pictures is fraught with hazard.  The shortest adapter by eye 
is the Nikon F which is already too long for OM, but if really a standard T2 
mount it should be able to be mounted on OM too.

I can't imagine why they would say it is, if it isn't. And yes, I have a T=>OM 
adapter on my Meade 1000/11 Mirror lens.

Some electrical connections would have been nice so get exif and a distance 
encoder  (like  MF CV lenses) would have enabled 5 axis IS for almost any 
Sonnie body. (A1 is the exception-- doesn't require that)  Also it tells the 
cam the FL so don't have to set FL for IBIS.
That would increase the price and complexity of course but markedly aid 
usability.

Yup, there's a big divide 'round here, EXIF on one side, ALT on the other.

Othello at least would not be jealous of this CAT, Mike


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