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Subject: Re: [OM] A.I. Gigapixel Test -Bill
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:25:05 -0700
On 9/16/2018 10:15 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>


On 9/15/2018 11:52 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
. . .
you MUST use Acrobat Reader to fill in most "open" PDF forms you download.
It's free, it works. That's bad how?
It sorta works. Some of the time. If you let it constantly update itself every 
few weeks. If you don't need to do something that worked in the last version 
that Adobe has meanwhile pulled out.

It also brings my computer to a screeching halt. If Acrobat Reader is running, 
I can't have a photo editor or 123,456 web browser tabs open.

Might your computer now be like the skinny kid on the beach getting sand kicked on his face? :-) Mine doesn't even notice when Adobe Reader is running with several documents open, browser with too many tabs, PS and LR, etc. all open too.

Unlike Preview, PDFPen, and a host of other programs that are compliant with the PDF 
"standard" that Adobe published, then violated.

I vastly prefer filling out PDF forms using Preview. It's small and 
lightweight. Other programs don't even notice it's running. But it won't show 
PDF forms newer than those created by Acrobat 11.

So, it's wonderful in principle, but useless in practice? ;-)

I do feel your pain. I haven't found a cheap/free program to edit contemporary PDFs that isn't a pain to use. $10 a month for PS is a few cents an hour for me. The Acrobat license is outrageous for the very occasional home user.

You might appreciate that I still use MS Office '97. I just had to uninstall Office 365 on my laptop, 'cause Win10 couldn't imagine that I meant I wanted to open files with the ancient stuff.

A different perspective: A sumo wrestler is bloated, compared to normal people, 
baseball players, soccer players, etc.
So too are football defensive linemen. And yet, if you want those jobs done, 
you need the 600 lb. gorilla*
Awesome! I know you need your gorilla, and I'm not trying to take it away from 
you. What I (and dare I say, most photographers) need is more like a bonobo, 
though. Love me and do enough that I can get my (less-demanding) job done 
quickly and with minimum computing resources.

The last time I used PS/LR, it did indeed feel like a gorilla was sitting on my 
computer. To make it work, I had to quit ALL the other apps I generally keep 
running. I prefer someone who plays well with others to a gorilla who comes in 
and takes over, Trumping everything else.

Just doesn't happen here. PS is ALWAYS open. And the Gorilla can open a stack of 25 focus slice files, align and merge them, while hardly breaking a sweat (while everything else is open, and I do other stuff while it works).

I appreciate that it's important to you to use a 'skinny kid' computer, and that finding and using programs that don't choke it is part of your thing. But that's not mine. As to the ongoing cost debate, I bought the components and built a then bleeding edge PC almost five years ago for about the tax on an equivalent power Mac. Maybe that's part of my "thing". It certainly was easy.

One thing I like about a desktop PC is the ease of accommodating old or new stuff. Both MS and Apple have obsoleted older hardware. With my PC, I added a Firewire card for a couple of bucks, to support an old peripheral. Now, I added a high powered graphics card. It's not the old says of weird problems with drivers, etc. Physically install, boot up, install driver, reboot, and done.

My diesel won't work with your fuel.
Bet it would!

Never will. 2007 Sprinter. Comes with warning not to use Biofuel. Has to do with the emissions stuff, I believe, not the engine itself. Yours may be the exception, but I can't get to you or back on one tank. :-)

Unless you're driving something older than 1996, *all* diesel vehicles meet the 
European fuel standards that require compatibility with biofuels. (US 
automakers got their congressional lackeys to defeat the mandate, but they 
didn't want to set up a separate manufacturing line to save ~$100 on their 
domestic vehicles, nor give up the ability to export to Europe, so they 
voluntarily complied after spending millions to defeat the mandate.)

All very well, as generalization. The cost if wrong is too high.

You can even create your own lens profiles for ON1, using open-source software, 
so easily-corrected flaws like CA, vignetting, and areal distortion are 
automagically corrected. Lightroom doesn't do that.
Well, as I say above, you don't know much about the products you dis. LR does 
indeed do that. In the case of 4/3 and
?4/3, it's just the same correction that Oly and Panny cameras and Raw 
conversion software apply.
Yea, sorry for not being clearer. You can create your own lens profiles *for 
lenses that don't have them.* Like my legacy OM glass. Or any other lens that 
doesn't have electronic communication of lens data, like mirrors or Lensbabies 
or the new fast manual offerings for Micro Four Thirds like Mitakons and 
Voitlanders.

Lightroom and Photoshop are not on the list of primarily open-source image 
editors that LensFun creates profiles for. So you're right: I don't have 
first-hand knowledge of it not working with LR/PS. I just don't know how to 
create and use a profile for a legacy lens that LR/PS will use. If you know 
otherwise, let me know!

As I just said, PTLens. Stand alone AND Adobe plug-in. I have an action in PS that creates and names a layer for it and invokes it. (I have no idea if it works with LR. I use LR strictly as catalog with map.)


In the case of computers and photo tools, my motto is "What Works!"
You're probably an INTJ.

INFP I don't think a "J" would have that motto.

Me too. It's just that "what works" for each of us is different. Sorry you took 
it as a personal attack.

Just lively discussion!

I wasn't trying to change you... as if that were possible... :-)

Indeed.

Piles, not Files Moose

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