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Re: [OM] GPS wrist watches for tracking photo locations

Subject: Re: [OM] GPS wrist watches for tracking photo locations
From: Bill Pearce <billpearce@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:50:38 -0500 (EST)
I've thought of this process for some time, but I always get up against one 
thing. For me, having lat-lon numbers for me is no better than nothing. How do 
you decode this into a location like Bezerkly, Chicago, etc. using only basic 
arithmetic and first two weeks of Jr. High algebra? 

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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:14:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [OM] GPS wrist watches for tracking photo locations 

On 12/29/2017 8:13 AM, John Hudson wrote: 
> Does anyone have a wrist watch like GPS device for tracking their physical 
> location when taking photos or are out 
> walking and can make a recommendation. 

I have, use and like the Garmin Foretrex 401. 

It's the smallest device I could find that does what you want - well. 
Although it comes with a wrist strap, it seems awkwardly large to be toting 
around on my wrist. I typically put it in my 
shirt pocket. The display when tracking isn't something to follow, anyway. 

It tracks much more accurately in difficult situations, such as under tree 
cover, than the iGotU or iPhone I used 
before. I've been geocoding my images for years. The 401 is the best device 
I've used. I assume any other Garmin or 
other brand high sensitivity GPS unit would work well, but they are all large, 
hand held devices. The 401 uses two AAA 
batteries, with settings for different types. My eneloops last a full day. The 
interface and software seem rather 
goofy/unintuitive to me, but work. Or one may simply use a file browser. 

> I am not interested in a device which records 1001 facts about heart rate, 
> steps per mile, elevation, air pressure, 
> body temperature, yards to the next golf green, etc. 
> 
> All I would like is a quality built wrist held device to record GPS 
> co-ordinates to at least five decimal places or 
> better. 

Here's a trackpoint from it's GPX output: 

<trkpt lat="27.40217800" lon="89.42070700"> 
<ele>2224.630</ele> 
<time>2017-09-26T02:21:12Z</time> 

The last two digits of Lat/long appear to always be zero, so it records six 
digits. Do not, however confuse precision 
with accuracy. It has the same accuracy as other high sensitivity chip GPS 
units, and that will vary with location, 
surroundings, etc. 

There is also the question of accuracy in matching track points to photos. If 
time in the camera differs from the super 
accurate GPS time, geocoding can be off. 

You must keep the time on the camera accurate. There are cases where this isn't 
at all easy. I used it on a cross 
country flight, just to see if it worked, and it appeared to work well at 
tracking, even inside the aluminum tube, 
window seat. However, I didn't change the camera time as we passed over time 
zone boundaries, so I didn't really know 
where many shots were taken. 

Go inside buildings where there is no signal, and it just repeats the last good 
fix until you leave. Inside one where 
some signals come in weakly, maybe bouncing, and you may get a series of points 
in the general vicinity. I had this 
happen in a temple in Bhutan. Easy enough to fix in my usual geocoding app, 
GeoSetter (free, good), by attaching a good 
point to all the bad ones. LR Maps Mode is also a decent geocoder, although 
with less detail control than GeoSetter. 

There is also the question of how the photo time and track times are matched. 
There is a choice between matching exactly 
to the nearest track point or interpolating between track points. 

I don't mean to say the whole process doesn't work. In fact, it almost always 
works quite well. But any assumptions of 
absolute, always accuracy are false. I deeply appreciate having geocoding for 
my Bhutan images. It's so easy to get 
confused in memories of so many places. Just jump in to the Map Mode in LR, and 
it's all clear. 

> 
> Any recommendations ? 

I guess I did have one. :-) 

Where in the World Moose 

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