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Re: [OM] IMG: My Struggle to Learn to Use Lightroom

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: My Struggle to Learn to Use Lightroom
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:09:21 -0800
On 1/8/2017 10:37 PM, ChrisB wrote:
Moose

I didn’t realise that you used FastStone, and I can’t understand why if you are 
importing your files to a LR catalogue.

You dislike LR, no? As do I. Adobe does many things well, light and agile are not among them. I find browsing in LR slow and clumsy. I could go into chapter and verse, but will resist. (Oh, my fingers are itching, but life is too short.)

Perhaps my preference is also in part because I've been using FS since before LR existed, and my fingers know it automagically. But mostly 'cause LR just isn't as good a browser, for me.

Your workflow is almost as I imagined; I understand that you want to use layers 
extensively, but I should have thought that you could Edit with PS from LR, 
saving the .psd file.

I certainly could, and I tried, really. Using LR as a general purpose image browser is like dancing with a bear. Just yesterday, I found a couple of images, of the Acorn Woodpecker and it's larder, using LR Maps, then flipped to FS to view and upload to Zone-10.

  Surely Adobe’s LR allows saving layered files.

Nope. Without some very fancy footwork, either in vastly expanded .xmp files or some other sort of auxiliary file, that would violate the underlying paradigm of "non-destructive" editing which underlays the LR ethos - that all purity and truth lie in the inviolate original file. LR cannot create, edit nor save layered files, although it can include them in the catalogs. In your imagined scenario of finding an image in LR and editing it in PS, it's easily possible to save a multi layer PSD from PS, then go back to LR for the next file.

"Non-destructive editing" is really, to my mind, for folks who shoot Raw, a misnomer as a way of distinguishing what LR and other editors that keep original file and edits separate. No editors I know of modify, then save, a new version of Raw files. They either save an .xmp of a new version in a different format. In no way is the original "destructed". It DOES apply to JPEGs, where it's possible in PS to edit , then save the modified version over the original, although it will warn you before doing so.

Capture One has no modules: you don’t have to switch modules to perform the functions.

That's true of some other converter/editors, as well.

LR having modules seems to me rather an affectation,

I can see the idea. Doesn't matter to me.

much like the silly scrollwork on the interface when I had a look at v1 (I 
think).

Don't recall that.

Thanks for showing me another way to do things.

Je t’en prie, Moose

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