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From: ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:33:00 +0100
I agree with Jim, on the subject of supersonic passenger travel.  We need 
zero-consumption hyperdrive before it’s worthwhile.

I’m not sure about the F-35.  It does seem to me to be a load of technology 
looking for a need.  And the oxy system looks inadequate – witness F18s and 
F22s.

Chris

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 13:47, Sawyer, Edward <Ed.Sawyer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the Concorde? Indeed too bad that’s not flying anymore, 
> but if we want to mourn great supersonic planes no longer flying, let’s start 
> with the SR-71.  And we can add the XB-70 Valkyrie (which Jim worked on, I 
> think! So cool…) to that list too. I saw a concorde and SR-71 at Udvar-Hazy 
> this spring, what a great place.  Need to see the Valkyrie someday when I can 
> get to W-P. 
> 
> F-35 seems like a cool ride (bummer about the ceiling cracks though) but I 
> wish they had continued the F-22 program instead. 
> 
> -Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/15/16, 6:16 AM, "olympus on behalf of olympus-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:olympus-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" 
> <olympus-bounces+ed.sawyer=unh.edu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:olympus-bounces+ed.sawyer=unh.edu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of 
> olympus-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:olympus-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Well it was certainly noisy but, as for not being ready for action, it flew
>> for over 25 years and I don't know how many flights.
>> It seems such a shame that we had the technology but abandoned its
>> development...
>> 
>> Jez
>> 
>> On Tuesday, 14 June 2016, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jez,
>>> 
>>> Having tested aircraft/engine combinations,in the world's largest
>>> supersonic wind tunnel, up to Mach 3.0, I'm not a fan of supersonic
>>> commercial flight.  To me, the requirements are too stringent and the
>>> benefits too few, to make this a worthwhile way to spend resources.  And I
>>> still have cracks in my kitchen ceiling that were caused by sonic booms
>>> provided by USAF F-35s flying their test corridor which passed near my
>>> house.  From what I read, it is still not ready for action.

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