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From: Bob Whitmire <fujixbob@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:30:31 -0400
See, the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about. <g>

That was an excellent abstract. And the book comes out when? 

And a further question: I believe we never will achieve artificial intelligence 
because there is no way to wire a machine to the subconscious, or, as Jung put 
it, the unconscious. We may differ slightly in that I believe the unconscious 
is our connection to the ineffable, the Profound Mystery, etc. 

Sent from my iPhone 6s Plus. This is a perfect mobile device. Any perceived 
errors in spelling, grammar, or logic are figments of your imagination.

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/16/2016 12:10 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>> After a drink or two, I can argue that inanimate objects--things--also _can_ 
>> possess a soul.
> 
> With my Animist headdress on, I must agree.
> 
>> But it takes the whisky to get around the fact that one person's object with 
>> soul is another person's piece of crap.
> 
> That's because (Jungian hat donned.) what we generally tend to think is the 
> soul in or of the object is, in fact, projection of interior parts of 
> ourselves of which we are consciously unaware onto external things, people, 
> whatever. Jung called these hidden parts of ourselves the Unconscious for the 
> obvious reason that about all we can know about it consciously is that it is 
> there, but not what's "in" it. Soul is just as good a word for it. *
> 
> The object is just an object, with no intrinsic, objective qualities of good 
> or bad, helpful or unhelpful. Those qualities only arise from our, external 
> perspective. Poison Oak (or Ivy) just is, it's soul and physical being simple 
> mirrors of each other. When many of us interact physically with it, our 
> bodies react in unpleasant ways, and we tend to demonize it as Bad, 
> particularly those of us filled with the monotheistic religious worldview 
> and/or secular/scientism gestalts that rely on dualistic thinking and feeling.
> 
> The naturalist healer will connect with the soul and discover in what ways 
> the object's nature might be useful. Poison Oak/Ivy, for example, have 
> healing uses for herbalists, holistic healers and so on.
> 
> The Shaman also may contact the soul, as a part of understanding the 
> relationship of an individual or tribe to the world they live in. The "other" 
> world(s) that Shamans visit and the material, middle world, that our bodies 
> and minds (largely) inhabit, mirror each other. Knowing the soul properties 
> of the things that surround us in the middle world is important, sometimes 
> crucial, to the Shaman's work in the other worlds.
> 
> As you know, I can natter on about this stuff, from several perspectives, 
> more or less ad infinitum.
> 
> Moose the Mouth
> 
> * Thus, Jungian Projection and Re-Collection, as Marie Louise Von Franz named 
> the process, Inner Work, as Robert A. Johnson called it, Shamanic practices 
> like the Soul Retrieval that Sandra Ingerman and other Shamanic practitioners 
> describe and practice and other ways of finding and re-integrating "lost" 
> parts of ourselves as a way of healing, are all essentially the same process 
> underneath.
> 
> -- 
> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
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