The eSATA board and backplane connector are, as you may have guessed,
add-ons, to enable me to have a fast external drive for photos.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash
> PATA is Parallel ATA. previously just called ATA (for AT Attachment)
> dates back to the IBM PC/AT. It is seriously old, uses short-run, wide,
> flat cables and has been around in continuing reincarnations until SATA
> (Serial ATA) was developed about 2003.
>
> As I noted and Moose commented on, if might be difficult to find a drive
> at this point which can communicate with your drive controller for the
> 80GB boot drive. You need to check the model of your drive and determine
> if your drive/controller can speak SATA II. But I'm encouraged by the
> fact that you have eSATA... unless you added that later as a separate
> controller.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 6/8/2011 8:03 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Thanks, Chuck. I'm learning a lot today.
>>
>> I just finished running the full chkdsk 5-stage check on that drive, and
>> it
>> turned up and replaced bad clusters in one .dll file. I had earlier run
>> the
>> simple 3-stage check from the Run window, and it mentioned a few more
>> problems, but apparently corrected most of them.
>>
>> I think I now have confidence in my drive to allow me to think this
>> through
>> and find a replacement (hopefully). I had not thought about the
>> different
>> versions of Serial ATA, which is the way it is described on the invoice.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt"<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash
>>
>>
>>> Since the drive is 6 years old it may be PATA or SATA 1. It might be
>>> difficult to locate such a drive since technology has already moved on
>>> to SATA 3. There are SATA 2 drives that can throttle back to SATA 1
>>> rates but they are also getting hard to find. I was searching for one
>>> for a friend several days ago and the only thing I could find was a 320
>>> GB refurbished Hitachi drive. The following is from my note to him of
>>> the other day
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> I've been having difficulty finding a drive which is SATA 1 (1.5 Gbps)
>>> compatible. Current drives on the market are SATA II (3Gps) or SATA III
>>> (6Gbps). I thought the faster drives would throttle back on detecting
>>> an SATA 1 controller but compatibility seems to be a mixed bag. I
>>> couldn't find any claims of 1.5Gbps compatibility in the mix of
>>> currently available SATA II/III drives.
>>>
>>> I eventually had to resort to looking for an older, refurbished drive to
>>> find one that runs at 1.5Gbps. This Hitachi model claims to run at
>>> 1.5Gbps by default. But that's a one line statement in a several
>>> hundred page specification. I can't find any way in that document to
>>> switch it to 3Gbps so I assume that the drive must configure itself to
>>> the speed of the controller. All the more important that you get the
>>> BlacX device that I pointed out that speaks both SATA and USB. It could
>>> prove important later on when trying to move data off the backup drive
>>> to a new computer if yours should completely fail and SATA version
>>> compatibility turns out to be a problem.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, here's the link
>>> <http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HDS725050KLA360-NDW-R&cat=HDD>
>>>
>>> Geeks.com deals in a lot of refurbished gear. I haven't bought anything
>>> from them lately but used to buy there fairly regularly. I consider
>>> them a reliable supplier.
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I use Acronis True Image 9.0 to clone my drives. It's old software
>>> which runs fine on XP but later versions (when they changed to year
>>> numbers for release numbers) seem to be somewhat buggy. You can still
>>> find 9.0 but you'll likely pay new prices for it. I think now that I'd
>>> try FOG<http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeghost/> It has good
>>> reviews but, being a free software foundation project, who knows what
>>> the user interface is like. It could be simple and easy to operate or
>>> could also be a bear.
>>>
>>> If you're cloning or backing up to SATA drives then the BlacX is a good
>>> solution.
>>> <<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071&cm_re=blacx_docking_station-_-17-153-071-_-Product>>
>>> Moose and I have them. They come in USB only or USB/eSATA combo
>>> interfaces. I suggest the latter although it costs a bit more than USB
>>> only.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/8/2011 5:17 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> My C drive is the original 80GB drive, and is 6 yrs old. If I replace
>>>> it,
>>>> what is the currently preferred manufacturer, and what software would
>>>> you
>>>> use to clone the drive? Do you open up the case and connect the new
>>>> drive
>>>> to a cable and clone it that way, or do it over a USB connection?
>>>>
>>>> The last HD I bought was WD, and it seems to be fine. It is my
>>>> external
>>>> eSATA photo drive.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt"<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like an "ordinary" disk I/O error... one of the only 1 in
>>>>> 10**14
>>>>> bits (or some such) that are eventually due to plague you. I suspect
>>>>> (but don't know) that the flurry of disk I/O activity upon reboot was
>>>>> probably the NTFS file system trying to figure out what was wrong with
>>>>> itself and correct it if possible. You don't say what you did to
>>>>> eventually recover but I suppose it doesn't matter if you're now up
>>>>> and
>>>>> running.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your disk drive is about 3 years old or more I'd replace it on the
>>>>> grounds of a cheap insurance policy. Get a new drive and clone the
>>>>> old
>>>>> before it's too late. In general I have found that my drives last at
>>>>> least 3 years and are generally technically obsoleted before they wear
>>>>> out. But I did have a 6 month old 1TB Seagate drive (used as my
>>>>> primary
>>>>> images storage) give up the ghost within the past two weeks or
>>>>> therabouts. But it was kind enough to tell me it was failing, or,
>>>>> more
>>>>> specifically, that it was likely to fail at some unknown time in the
>>>>> future. Apparently the correctable read error rate had risen to an
>>>>> unacceptable level and the S.M.A.R.T system intervened and advised me
>>>>> to
>>>>> replace the drive. Had it been a RAID drive it would have
>>>>> automatically
>>>>> rebuilt a replacement. First time I've ever seen a S.M.A.R.T. system
>>>>> message and intervention.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/8/2011 2:51 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>> Strictly OT, but I have a question. I was copying some files to a CD
>>>>>> this morning, and, while the CD was being finalized, to enable it to
>>>>>> be used by others, my Windows XP system crashed. A DOS screen came
>>>>>> up that I have never seen before. I shut down and rebooted, but the
>>>>>> HD just kept showing steady activity. I tried restore points back to
>>>>>> a week earlier, but they all failed. Has anyone encountered anything
>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After many attempts at restarting, I am finally up and running again.
>>>>>> I have created a new restore point, just in case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After almost two hours, I am a WRECK!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA
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