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Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash

Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:43:10 -0500
Thanks, Scott.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Gomez" <sgomez.baja@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash


> What I've noticed through quite a number of drive purchases over the last
> few years is that what is far more important than the manufacturer is the
> "series" of drive you buy. Seagate has at least two "series" of drive. WD
> may have 3, although I can't remember for sure at the moment.
>
> What will identify them for you is the difference in price/warranty for 
> the
> drive. Comparing drives of identical size from Seagate , you'll find "NS"
> series "enterprise grade" drives for some models which carry a 
> significantly
> longer warranty (and higher price) then their "consumer" grade drives.
> Similarly, WD has "green", "black" and "blue"(?) series drives.
>
> With the Seagates, there's a noticeable difference in noise and run
> temperature between the NS grade drives and the consumer grade drives, 
> with
> the NS running cooler and quieter--a reflection of their better build
> quality. It's much the same with the WD drives, in my experience.
>
> At the office, where we need a drive in any user's machine almost only for
> the OS, we use very inexpensive, consumer grade disks. User data is stored
> on a server, with redundancy. Failure in one doesn't really matter; we 
> just
> replace it with a previously imaged disk of whatever size we have at hand.
>
> At home, I use the enterprise grade disks, where I'd prefer to get as much
> run-time out of them as possible.
>
> ---
> Scott Gomez
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 14:17, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> My C drive is the original 80GB drive, and is 6 yrs old.  If I replace 
>> it,
>> what is the currently preferred manufacturer, and what software would you
>> use to clone the drive?  Do you open up the case and connect the new 
>> drive
>> to a cable and clone it that way, or do it over a USB connection?
>>
>> The last HD I bought was WD, and it seems to be fine.  It is my external
>> eSATA photo drive.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] Strictly OT: System Crash
>>
>>
>> > Sounds like an "ordinary" disk I/O error... one of the only 1 in 10**14
>> > bits (or some such) that are eventually due to plague you.  I suspect
>> > (but don't know) that the flurry of disk I/O activity upon reboot was
>> > probably the NTFS file system trying to figure out what was wrong with
>> > itself and correct it if possible.  You don't say what you did to
>> > eventually recover but I suppose it doesn't matter if you're now up and
>> > running.
>> >
>> > If your disk drive is about 3 years old or more I'd replace it on the
>> > grounds of a cheap insurance policy.  Get a new drive and clone the old
>> > before it's too late.  In general I have found that my drives last at
>> > least 3 years and are generally technically obsoleted before they wear
>> > out.  But I did have a 6 month old 1TB Seagate drive (used as my 
>> > primary
>> > images storage) give up the ghost within the past two weeks or
>> > therabouts.  But it was kind enough to tell me it was failing, or, more
>> > specifically, that it was likely to fail at some unknown time in the
>> > future.  Apparently the correctable read error rate had risen to an
>> > unacceptable level and the S.M.A.R.T system intervened and advised me 
>> > to
>> > replace the drive.  Had it been a RAID drive it would have 
>> > automatically
>> > rebuilt a replacement.  First time I've ever seen a S.M.A.R.T. system
>> > message and intervention.
>> >
>> > Chuck Norcutt
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/8/2011 2:51 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> >> Strictly OT, but I have a question.  I was copying some files to a CD
>> >> this morning, and, while the CD was being finalized, to enable it to
>> >> be used by others, my Windows XP system crashed.  A DOS screen came
>> >> up that I have never seen before. I shut down and rebooted, but the
>> >> HD just kept showing steady activity.  I tried restore points back to
>> >> a week earlier, but they all failed.  Has anyone encountered anything
>> >> like this?
>> >>
>> >> After many attempts at restarting, I am finally up and running again.
>> >> I have created a new restore point, just in case.
>> >>
>> >> After almost two hours, I am a WRECK!
>> >>
>> >> Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA
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