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[OM] Re: Old cameras, photos and restoration [was which one ?]

Subject: [OM] Re: Old cameras, photos and restoration [was which one ?]
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:56:28 -0500
Chuck,

Nice job.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:05 AM
Subject: [OM] Re: Old cameras, photos and restoration [was which one ?]


> This is the photo that had all the cracks.  The inset shows what the
> original looked like.  <http://www.chucknorcutt.com/restoration.php>
>
> Aunt Annie's wedding dinner photo really is amazing on many levels.
> There is no way the DOF could be so great on a large format camera
> unless the camera was capable of tilt or swing.  Also, given the small
> apertures of a large camera, the slow speed of film of the day and no
> apparent subject motion I would have to assume that flash was used.
> However, I can't find much indication of that in the shadows although
> there certainly is some (see, especially, the lower left corner).
> Another amazing point is that I can't find anyone blinking.  I can find
> a few women not looking at the camera who may have their eyes closed but
> no one looking at the camera whose eyes are not open.  Makes me wish I
> could talk to that photographer.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> Moose wrote:
>> Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>> ...
>>> As to dealing with multitudes of scratches I would suggest reading Ctein 
>>> in his "Digital Restoration From Start to Finish".  Chapter 8 of the 
>>> book has almost 25 pages of detailed methods of efficiently dealing with
>>> scratches.  I haven't had any real need for the techniques there since I 
>>> bought the book but I wish I'd had it for the last serious piece of 
>>> restoration work I did.
>> I've got some old photos that I mean to restore one of these days, so
>> it's good to have a strong recommendation for a reference source for
>> technique.
>>> It was an 8x10 glossy photo from the late 40's or early 50's which had 
>>> been rolled into a tight curl. That introduced what I think must have 
>>> been thousands of tiny cracks in the emulsion... plus some not so tiny 
>>> ones where chunks of the emulsion were falling off.
>> I recently dealt with a similar situation, but not as bad. Carol Anne's
>> Aunt Annie is a wonderful old lady whom we visit whenever in NY. She has
>> this really amazing photo from her wedding dinner. It's technically
>> amazing for the DOF and sharpness right out to the corners. It's an
>> amazing image because of the great wealth of characters captured having
>> a great time in Brooklyn shortly after the war. I can stare at the
>> details for a long time.
>> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Miscellaneous&image=_MG_3214-17bii.jpg>
>>
>> Although I had seen it before, and wanted to copy/restore it, there was
>> no way it was leaving the house, let alone traveling to Calif. So last
>> year I went prepared. I ended up with tripod on Annie's kitchen table
>> after lunch, books on the corners of the print, with 5D and 90mm macro
>> lens. I took several shots, and ended up combining two covering the full
>> height and part of the width each. A full pixel detail is here.
>> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Miscellaneous&image=_MG_3214-17bfp1ii.jpg>
>>
>> I had wondered what kind of camera was used. I think my question has
>> been answered by a link Andrew posted.
>>
>> Andrew Fildes wrote:
>>> ... Does the Folmer and Schwing swing, I wondered - doesn't look like 
>>> it. So I found this - http://www.clickondavid.com/folmerschwing2.html
>>> ...
>> I didn't know about these "banquet" cameras. Wiiide format HD isn't new
>> at all. Looks to me like one was still in use in 1947.
>>>   I finally finished the work to my own satisfaction but it took me 
>>> about three months of off and on again part time work using the clone 
>>> tool... the only method I knew at the time.
>> My project wasn't nearly so bad. The print had been rolled up tight in a
>> tube, but the cracking wasn't all that bad. Perhaps the semi-matte
>> finish was tougher, or storage had been more felicitous.
>>
>> Moose
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