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Subject: [OM] Re: Old computers - Geeks and nerds
From: "Leandro DUTRA" <leandro.gfc.dutra@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:53:45 -0300
2008/3/24, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>  Leandro DUTRA wrote:
>  > 2008/3/23, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>  >>  On a 286, protected mode and real mode are incompatible.
>  > […]
>  >> It's the reason that Bill Gates was quoted as saying the
>  >>  286 was a "brain dead" processor.
>  >
>  > Bear in mind he was trying to protect his proprietary lock-in, which
>  > revolved around running real mode applications.  Had he stuck to the
>  > original open-systems plan around Xenix, the 80286 would have been a
>  > perfectly good processor.
>
> I don't know what you are talking about here.  I've been talking about
>  OS/2 which was developed by IBM and not by Bill Gates to protect "his
>  proprietary lock-in".

Yes, you know the history strictly from an IBM point of view.  Reality
is richer: OS/2 was derived from PC DOS, in fact it was a protected
mode DOS with Presentation Manager.

But also, the same was valid for MS Windows NT, as a derivative from
OS/2 NT which never saw the light of the day.  So even before MS
jumped from the OS/2 ship, MS had a stake on OS/2.

I can still remember the videos of Gates saying MS thought the OS of
the future was OS/2.


> His name was Dennis Gibbs.  He was an IBM hardware development manager
>  moved to manage a group charged with OS/2 system software and hardware
>  compatibility testing sometime before I got to the group in 1985.  After
>  the first couple of years of OS/2 development he left IBM and went to
>  Apple.  I have no idea what happened to him after that.  He had a
>  hardware liaison responsibility between IBM and Intel and tried very
>  hard to influence their design decisions to ease IBM software
>  development.  Sometimes successful, sometimes not.

Very interesting!


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