On 2/2/2024 7:34 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
Let me see if I am misunderstanding this incorrectly. You like the LF lens rendering of Winston. Is it because of the
LF lens, the way it renders, even at smaller apertures, which does not happen with conventional 35mm alt lenses?
What happens when you use a focal reducer with an alt lens on u43?
So, you are looking for an alt lens/filter, that you can easily travel with, that can render like the LF version of
Winston?
I'm looking for something(s) that will render a gentle, organic image with lots of DoF, without clinical sharp/edginess.
I'm not looking for exactly what Winston is like, but that big print was one part of whatever made me think of alternate
rendering.
On 1/28/2024 10:25 AM, usher99--- via olympus wrote:
They all have their positive attributes but the TTartisans is most "organic" with enough
sharpness to work and the modified bokeh one is my first choice.  I reluctantly say
that as you de-bubblefied it and bubbles are the bokeh hallmark of that lens.
Indeed, but it's also an optically simple lens with less hard edged rendering
than many contemporary lenses.
Well, I'm glad I said "many". I've been wandering about the web, looking at stuff, doing searches, etc. In my travels,
I ran across Oly's Pro series F1.2 lenses. I'd never paid them any attention, assuming they were just about speed.
Reading several reviews, I discovered how I'd been wrong. Oly claims that their 17, 25 and 45 mm Pro, F1.2 lenses are
about bokeh, the look of OoF areas.
Every reviewer loved the 45 mm and 25 mm lenses. The sample images showed almost every background with smooth,
attractive bokeh, every portrait or other close subject with a 3D-ish look and great subject-background separation. At
the widest couple of apertures, a little gentle softness. Delicious transitions from focused to OoF.
I've also developed this dichotomy about my gear:
µ4/3:
Zooms for looong focal range. Out on the range, I have 14-1120mm FF eq. range
of FLs.
Mostly about sharp, clear images.
Mostly about responsiveness, super AF, Pro Capture, catching the moment.
Almost never use a tripod.
EXIF just happens.
FF:
All but one of my Alt lenses are primes.
About all sorts of looks - except straight, sharp, clear.
About finding interesting, static, or close to it, subjects.
Manual focus.
Tripod use fairly common.
EXIF requires effort, memory or notes, addition after download.
I do have three Alt lenses for µ4/3, but they are like The FF ones in other
respects.
So . . . what if I blur or abandon my lines? What might I be able to do with all the advantages of µ4/3 - and some
Alt-ish ideas?
So . . . KEH had a 45/1.2 Pro, LN-, for a not unreasonable price. Now I have it.
🙂
First look: in conventional terms, f1.2 is soft, compared to f5.6 = bad lens. F1.2 is soft, compared to f5.6, perhaps =
good lens, for Alt purposes.
Second look: Use focus bracketing with wide open aperture. Hmmm, gentle rendering with great DoF. Isn't that one thing I
was looking for? And . . . fine hand held, in camera stack creation, AF, EXIF. NOT Bad.
Unfortunately, the shots I took yesterday, in a hurry to see what they look like, don't quite answer all my questions,
no lend themselves to posting. And today is rainy and windy, and my test subject is outdoors. I did try shooting a stack
wide open, and it looks pretty good; not edgy, nice detail, deep DoF.
Still Trekking Moose
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