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Re: [OM] CSI level image processor

Subject: Re: [OM] CSI level image processor
From: DAVID DICKSON <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 13:38:38 +1100
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 1:23 pm, C.H.Ling <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ah, I didn't know there is Topaz Photo AI.
>
> Codeformer only work with face, it do better with larger face as it
> provide more details. With face too small or blur Codeformer may create
> something totally wrong.
>
> The background is handled by Real-ESRGAN, it is included in the command
> line and combine with faces generated by Codeformer. Real-ESRGAN do
> sharpen and noise reduction but no option setting, it usually overdone.
> It handle the image block by block, in many cases you will see different
> results on some areas of the same images.
>
> But sometimes it do work nicely:
>
> Bejing 1984 OM-10 Sigma 28-70mm
>
> https://accura.com.hk/temp/1984_Bejing-12F.jpg
>
> https://accura.com.hk/temp/1984_Bejing-12FRE.jpg
>
> On the other hand I found Codefromer+Real-ESRGAN do very well for small
> digital images:
>
> https://accura.com.hk/temp/Staysafe.jpg
>
> https://accura.com.hk/temp/staysafe_CF.jpg
>
> It handle compression artifacts very well.
>
> C.H.Ling
>
>
> On 1/2/2023 5:59, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
> > At 1/31/2023 07:51 AM, C.H.Ling wrote:
> >> I have been using Topaz Sharpen AI for some time, processed over two
> thousands images, mostly in Motion Blur mode. Topaz is okay but just can't
> compare with Codeformer for face recovery.
> >>
> >> C.H.Ling
> >
> > Thanks for showing this tool. I will have to try it out also...
> >
> > This was using the new Topaz Photo AI (latest version 1.1.9) not Topaz
> Sharpen. I noticed that the texture in the shirt (3rd from right), for
> instance, is better with Codeformer. Hence, Codeformer seems to do better,
> with not just faces, than Photo AI. I went back and tried adjusting things
> in Photo AI to no avail. I could never get the shirt right.
> >
> > I tried all the Topaz tools on my cat image and Photo AI had artifacts
> in the fur.
> > https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAouQUI
> > I later reduced the resolution and got some better results, but overall
> I am disappointed.
> >
> > I have notice with Topaz AI tools that the image resolution can make a
> difference. For larger images, such as A7Riii or A7Riv, the results have a
> lot of artifacts but if the image size is reduced, the artifacts become
> less. I was wondering if the AI model training does not include such high
> res images. And if the image is already fairly sharp, Denoize Clear seems
> to do better and is much faster.
> >
> > I'm curious if Codeformer has a similar issue with resolution?
> >
> > WayneS
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