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Re: [OM] First Snow on the Eagle River

Subject: Re: [OM] First Snow on the Eagle River
From: Wayne Shumaker <om3ti@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:14:20 -0700
At 10/23/2020 12:22 PM, Ken wrote:
>Philippe, just to circle back around to the lens camera combination
>again, I wanted to talk a little more about it.
>
>As some of us have the GX85 (GX80 or GX7 ii), we sometimes get a
>little frustrated with the color and tonality we get from the camera
>in Lightroom. There are some lighting conditions and subjects that can
>cause difficulty. However, there is one particular kind of lighting
>that I think all Panasonic Lumix cameras excel in and that's flat,
>overcast lighting. There is a gentleness to the tones that gives the
>images a look much more like that of a medium or large-format camera.
>This isn't usually present in harsh lighting, but for soft lighting,
>the subtleties are amazing. I don't know of any other camera brand
>that uniformly is as good at it as Panasonic. I see it in the DMC-L1,
>and I see it in the GX85.
>
>The Lumix G 25/1.7 lens is an odd-duck lens. I bought mine on sale for
>around $100 USD and it is easily among the best bargain-priced lens on
>the market in any mount or in any format. I likely get the sharpest
>pictures with this camera-lens combination of any camera-lens
>combination in my entire kit! Focus is sometimes a little slow, it's
>all plastic, it isn't waterproofed, and is about as well-built as a
>Walmart toaster. Wide-open, it still performs well, but I find that
>the lens is engineered to a type of usage that the bokeh is very nice
>but doesn't present flaws that make it interesting. Unlike most "nifty
>fifty" lenses, the background doesn't get nervous.
>
>But where this lens really shines is the "micro-contrast". The weakest
>link is not the lens, it's the camera, and in this regard, the camera
>itself is remarkable (at ISO 200). I think it's pretty obvious that
>Panasonic learned something from their relationship with Leica and it
>wouldn't surprise me if this lens was actually designed by Leica! It
>has a look which implies as much.
>
>TL;DR, I love the lens, and enjoy shooting with it more than I should.
>But it does alias on the GX85 because it is so sharp.

This is a Panasonic lens. I think you can give them credit.
I read some interesting articles about how they fixed the
onion-ring bokeh. This was 2014, so much may have changed
since then.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/05/02/the-end-of-onion-ring-bokeh-panasonic-beats-the-curse-of-aspheric-lenses
It would not surprise me that Pany is a perfectly capable lens maker.

And Sony improved upon it by designing their own mold making machine.
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/motoyuji-ohtake-interviewed-by-dpreview-and-ir-gm-lenses-are-made-for-future-high-res-cameras/

I wonder if the same thing can also contribute to improved
micro-contrast with aspheric lenses?

WayneS

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