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Re: [OM] OM-D E-M1X

Subject: Re: [OM] OM-D E-M1X
From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 10:55:38 +0200
Well, so long as this pension funds and private (health) insurance systems 
survive … you pay, or will, one way or another I think.


OTT, check the immersed part of the Amazon iceberg i.e. AWS …

Amities

Philippe



> Le 16 juin 2019 à 10:06, Wayne Harridge <wayne.harridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> a écrit :
> 
> Chris, you might like to have a look at this article which has some info on 
> amazon:
> 
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-08/uber-netflix-run-at-a-loss-and-they-dont-care-/11185434?section=technology&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=%5bspecialist_sfmc_13_06_19_science%5d%3a125&user_id=d8b1b02d5c879965e48b87d3d6536885127e7205811889da2f3274cab2c300df&WT.tsrc=email&WT.mc_id=Email%7c%5bspecialist_sfmc_13_06_19_science%5d%7c125story_10_img
> 
> ...Wayne
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olympus <olympus-
>> bounces+wayne.harridge=structuregraphs.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
>> Behalf Of ChrisB
>> Sent: Sunday, 16 June 2019 4:58 PM
>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [OM] OM-D E-M1X
>> 
>> Moose
>> 
>> I can see that a chap might change his or her mind, but my point is that the
>> facility to return on a whim is costing the retailer margin which he will 
>> have to
>> recover somewhere.  In this country you have to pay for the return postage
>> if the itiem is not faulty, but where that is not the case the retailer will 
>> raise
>> the margin somewhere else in the world.
>> 
>> One of the ways that Amazon has got ahead is by employing its workers on
>> punitive wages and conditions (in this country the taxpayer tops up such
>> wages) and by avoiding tax.
>> 
>> I haven�t cancelled my account with Amazon, but I  use other online
>> retailers if at all possible; Bezos (or his ex-wife) doesn�t need my money, I
>> know.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Jun 19, at 22:07, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> was "Changed my mind."
>>> 
>>>> It must cost someone a lot of money for people to be allowed to do that.
>>> 
>>> Pre Amazon - - -
>>> =========================
>>> On-line retailers (and before that, mail-order) know they have a
>> disadvantage compared to local stores, where one may try out/play with
>> gear before buying. OTOH, they have cost advantages and perhaps buying
>> power advantages. So they simply build the cost of a friendly return policy
>> into their margins. ALL retailers have a difference between starting gross 
>> and
>> final gross. One component of that is mark-downs/promotions, another is
>> shrinkage (breakage, theft, and so on, endlessly). Cost of returns is just
>> another one.
>>> 
>>> Note that big shippers pay for their mass business nothing like what you or
>> I pay for single package shipping.
>>> 
>>> Post Amazon, and esp. today - - -
>>> =========================
>>> One reason Amazon seems likely to rule the world is that they never stop
>> finding ways to improve service and decrease costs.
>>> 
>>> Recently had to return a lens adapter that was the wrong length. I ordered
>> another, different brand, - OK, then did the return. I was offered several
>> options, all free:
>>> 
>>> -Print a UPS label and drop the package off.
>>> 
>>> -Drop the item off at a UPS location, no packing or label required.
>>> 
>>> -UPS comes and picks up unpackaged, unlabeled item, but, an adult must
>> be present.
>>> 
>>> -Was there another option? I don't recall.
>>> 
>>> So, I took it to a UPS store. Guy took it, gave me a receipt when I asked; I
>> was in there less than a minute. I received my refund within about an hour of
>> dropping it off.
>>> 
>>> Do you see what's going on here? Amazon is making returns even less
>> painful for me AND, AND, reducing their costs. Obviously, the UPS store is
>> putting all the returns in one combined package for shipping, and Amazon is
>> paying less per than before, likely a lot less. (Why would UPS do this? 
>> FedEx,
>> DHL, etc.)
>>> 
>>> So, what are other on-line stores to do? Make their returns policies and
>> procedures any less attractive than they must, compared to Amazon? R.I.P.
>>> 
>>> My Adorama return, of a $409 used lens, was as painless as anyone other
>> than Amazon. Print a free shipping label and a page to include in the 
>> package,
>> Package it up well, stick on the label and drop it off at a UPS point.
>>> 
>>> Then wait several days for ground shipping across the US, and get a refund,
>> less a $5 restocking fee. Perfectly acceptable, but not a patch on Amazon.
>>> 
>>> The competition is such that no one can afford NOT to have liberal returns.
>>> 
>>> Ex Retailer Moose
>> 
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