I remember now that I was told that the local AFB, closed to other traffic,
is not equipped for ILS. That's why I saw lots of KC-135's apparently
shooting touch and go's at the municipal airfield. Don't see that much now,
so maybe things have changed. The airport has high traffic due to, not what
you might think, folks getting the hell out of town, but because of both
Cessna and Lear are located on the airport, and Bombardier's company wide
flight test facility is at Lear. So, yes, we are seeing lots of the
bombardier 737 competition here, too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Nichols
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 2:10 PM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
There are apparently time limits on what can be used. Here is a reference:
http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_61-73.html
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
On 10/17/2015 1:51 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
This needs further research. I recall an ex military pilot telling me that
they didn't get an instrument rating for some mainly sensible reason, but
I can't remember it, due to advancing age.
-----Original Message----- From: ChrisB
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:51 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
“Not many of the ex-military pilots had instrument ratings. . .”? That
seems wrong. It would be unnecessarily restrictive on any military force
for its pilots to be unable to fly in bad weather.
Chris
On 16 Oct 15, at 21:09, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill,
I did a little more searching, and found this article, which has some
interesting numbers and a few more details on structural problems. I can
recall when the tail chord was increased, and the front of the stabilizer
was anchored more securely.
http://airfactsjournal.com/2012/06/tail-tale-what-was-wrong-with-v-tail-bonanza-pilots/
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
On 10/16/2015 2:54 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
While ego was a large part of the problem, there were structural
problems, when an egotistical pilot flew into weather he shouldn't. I
believe, but memory is unclear, that the tailcone came loose due to
torsion. Beech applied structural fixes in the late years of the V.
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:26 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
Bill,
Thanks for your comments. I agree that the Bonanza was a slippery
airplane when cleaned up, but no more so than the Mooney, Comanche, or
the Cessna 210, for that matter. I knew pilots who were killed in a
Mooney, and in a Twin Comanche. And even Scott Crossfield, with all of
his experience, was killed in a Cessna 210. My only RG experience was
with the Comanche 250. I have ridden in a Bonanza, but never flew one.
But, even the Bonanza had a safety outlet. If one found himself in a
situation where caution was required, the gear could be lowered, and
then it was rock solid.
The problem, in my humble opinion, was a matter of ego, not airplane.
For low-time pilots with deep pockets, the Bonanza was a nice, shiny toy
that they just couldn't resist.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
On 10/15/2015 11:45 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
Jim,
Glad you enjoyed yourself, I would like to have been there. It does,
though make me sad that the museum and event isn't in Wichita, where
most of these things were born.
The V tail Bonanza was a handful to fly unless you were an experienced
pilot. It was once said here that, "If it weren't for the Beech
Bonanza, we would be up to our a** in doctors and lawyers." That's
because more than a few were lost because the Bonanza was a handful for
a low time pilot with a big ego and wallet to match. With the
conventional tail, most of the problems were solved.
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:18 PM
To: LUG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
Each year at about this time the Beech airplane enthusiasts throw a
Beech Party in Tullahoma, where they enjoy each others company and all
things Beech. The airplanes have been arriving for several days.
Today, I snapped a few examples of the airplanes that brought it all
about.
The pride and joy of the Beech enthusiasts is the BE-17 Staggerwing,
built in the 1930s and 1940s. This photo was too far away to show the
details of craftsmanship, but it was the best I could do today.
http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Red+Staggerwing.tif.html
The follow-on to the Staggerwing was the Twin Beech, built for the Army
and Navy in a number of configurations during WWII, and produced for
the
civilian market in the 40s and 50s. The Pratt & Whitney R-985 450 hp
radial powered most of the Staggerwings and the Twin Beech, though some
were converted to turboprops later.
This one was caught on a low pass down the runway.
http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Twin+Beech+in+Flight.TIFF.html
After WWII, Beech developed the Bonanza for the civilian market. The
original had the butterfly tail shown here, while the later models
featured a conventional tail.
http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Red+Bonanza.TIFF.html
And when pilots get together, frequently they want to do things that
are
not a part of their daily routine, such as formation flying and low
passes down the runway. This formation contained the military trainer
version of the Bonanza, the T-34, along with a Bonanza.
http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/T-34+and+Bonanza.tif.html
All shot from a distance with the E-1 and Takumar 135/3.5.
Comments and critiques welcomed.
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