Jim, no joke... You are one helluva researcher.
Not a bad pitcher taker, either.
On Oct 16, 2015 4:09 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I did a little more searching, and found this article, which has some
> interesting numbers and a few more details on structural problems. I can
> recall when the tail chord was increased, and the front of the stabilizer
> was anchored more securely.
>
>
> http://airfactsjournal.com/2012/06/tail-tale-what-was-wrong-with-v-tail-bonanza-pilots/
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
> On 10/16/2015 2:54 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>
>> While ego was a large part of the problem, there were structural
>> problems, when an egotistical pilot flew into weather he shouldn't. I
>> believe, but memory is unclear, that the tailcone came loose due to
>> torsion. Beech applied structural fixes in the late years of the V.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 8:26 AM
>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. I agree that the Bonanza was a slippery
>> airplane when cleaned up, but no more so than the Mooney, Comanche, or
>> the Cessna 210, for that matter. I knew pilots who were killed in a
>> Mooney, and in a Twin Comanche. And even Scott Crossfield, with all of
>> his experience, was killed in a Cessna 210. My only RG experience was
>> with the Comanche 250. I have ridden in a Bonanza, but never flew one.
>> But, even the Bonanza had a safety outlet. If one found himself in a
>> situation where caution was required, the gear could be lowered, and
>> then it was rock solid.
>>
>> The problem, in my humble opinion, was a matter of ego, not airplane.
>> For low-time pilots with deep pockets, the Bonanza was a nice, shiny toy
>> that they just couldn't resist.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>> On 10/15/2015 11:45 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Glad you enjoyed yourself, I would like to have been there. It does,
>>> though make me sad that the museum and event isn't in Wichita, where most
>>> of these things were born.
>>>
>>> The V tail Bonanza was a handful to fly unless you were an experienced
>>> pilot. It was once said here that, "If it weren't for the Beech Bonanza, we
>>> would be up to our a** in doctors and lawyers." That's because more than a
>>> few were lost because the Bonanza was a handful for a low time pilot with a
>>> big ego and wallet to match. With the conventional tail, most of the
>>> problems were solved.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:18 PM
>>> To: LUG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Olympus Camera Discussion
>>> Subject: [OM] IMG: A Few from the Beech Party
>>>
>>> Each year at about this time the Beech airplane enthusiasts throw a
>>> Beech Party in Tullahoma, where they enjoy each others company and all
>>> things Beech. The airplanes have been arriving for several days.
>>> Today, I snapped a few examples of the airplanes that brought it all
>>> about.
>>>
>>> The pride and joy of the Beech enthusiasts is the BE-17 Staggerwing,
>>> built in the 1930s and 1940s. This photo was too far away to show the
>>> details of craftsmanship, but it was the best I could do today.
>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Red+Staggerwing.tif.html
>>>
>>> The follow-on to the Staggerwing was the Twin Beech, built for the Army
>>> and Navy in a number of configurations during WWII, and produced for the
>>> civilian market in the 40s and 50s. The Pratt & Whitney R-985 450 hp
>>> radial powered most of the Staggerwings and the Twin Beech, though some
>>> were converted to turboprops later.
>>> This one was caught on a low pass down the runway.
>>>
>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Twin+Beech+in+Flight.TIFF.html
>>>
>>> After WWII, Beech developed the Bonanza for the civilian market. The
>>> original had the butterfly tail shown here, while the later models
>>> featured a conventional tail.
>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Red+Bonanza.TIFF.html
>>>
>>> And when pilots get together, frequently they want to do things that are
>>> not a part of their daily routine, such as formation flying and low
>>> passes down the runway. This formation contained the military trainer
>>> version of the Bonanza, the T-34, along with a Bonanza.
>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/T-34+and+Bonanza.tif.html
>>>
>>> All shot from a distance with the E-1 and Takumar 135/3.5.
>>>
>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>
>>>
>>
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