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Re: [OM] IMG: Sidewalk Cafe

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Sidewalk Cafe
From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 14:50:36 +0100
I like the degree of DOF that has occurred here, Chuck – the softness doesn’t 
hurt my eyes; and although I agree with you about the principle of framing with 
regard to limbs, I would accept this one as is.

And the expression on the girl’s face is great.

Chris

On 29 Jun 2014, at 13:53, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> But I do have different ideas about the sidewalk cafe shot and not with 
> respect to white balance.  Two things hit me between the eyes when I first 
> looked at the image.  I think the DOF is too shallow.  The guys in the 
> background should be soft but not so soft as to strain my eyes. I've 
> estimated that this shot was taken at about 20-25 feet.  With a 90mm at f/4 
> there's not much depth there.  For a street photo where one has to move 
> fairly quickly I would likely have used f/5.6 or even f/8. Yes, I know, I'm 
> not the Leica shooter trying to shoot everything wide open.  Anyhow, if the 
> shot is important enough, it's not hard to adjust the depth of field from 
> sharper to blurrier.  But going the other way is tough.
> 
> My second point is something that was drilled into me years ago.  The woman's 
> shoe is not entirely within the frame.  I would likely have discarded this 
> frame (as I have many others) based solely on that point.  My personal rule 
> is that, if the foot (hand, etc) is in the frame, it must be complete.  If 
> not, an alternate crop at ankle or calf or knee level might be better.  This 
> one is close enough to being complete that I would even consider extending 
> the frame and painting in the rest of the shoe and sidewalk.  A bit extreme 
> perhaps but that's the way I was taught about taking pictures of people.  
> Sometimes tough on me since I continue to make that same framing "mistake" 
> over and over.

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