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Subject: Re: [OM] swans
From: Charles Geilfuss <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:40:00 -0500
Wow! Clash of Titans!

Charlie


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:39 PM, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Gators or crocs ........... maybe not so smart creatures after all
>
> http://tinyurl.com/lhbyruy
>
> jh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>
>
> Do the coyotes fear the gators? Should they?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Geilfuss
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:27 PM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>
>   Well Bill, my gators are in SC and the mosquitoes aren't big enough to
> support them (have to go to Texas to get that size mosquito). We have also
> had coyotes move into the area about five years ago so I'm sure they will
> take their toll on the geese. I have watched a few of the geese nests and
> the racoons take a heavy toll on the eggs. But some do hatch. I counted
> about a dozen goslings last year which seems like a small success rate for
> 50 or so geese.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I never thought I would say this, but what we need are some gators. But
> > then
> > again, maybe they are getting fatter off the huge Florida bugs.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Geilfuss
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:11 PM
> > To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [OM] swans
> >
> >   Beginning a few years ago, we have had a small population (around 25-50
> > birds ) of Canada Geese that have been living year round on the ponds
> > scattered around Daniel Island. The area has about a dozen ponds ranging
> > from 1/2 acre to three acres. A few geese are picturesque and I enjoy
> > seeing them fly over. Their numbers have been stable but if it turns in
> to
> > 250 birds it will be a problem. So far I haven't heard any complaints
> from
> > the residents about them and the HOA has been mum to their presence. The
> > local alligators have been getting fatter, so there may be a built-in
> > correction factor.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
> > chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Canada geese have two different population types.  One is the normal
> > > migratory goose which the "flyway" treaties between the US and Canada
> > > were designed to protect.  The other is the resident goose population
> > > who (for whatever reasons) do not migrate as their ancestors did.
> > > Migratory geese are protected, resident geese are not.  The problem is,
> > > how do you tell the difference?  The US Fish & Wildlife Service has
> been
> > > trying to solve this (unsuccessfully) for a long time.  See:
> > > <https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/geese.html>
> > >
> > > Chuck Norcutt
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/9/2014 10:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> > > > Our local Zoo has a world class problem, aw hell, our whole state has
> > > > a
> > > > problem with resident Canadian geese. The damn rats with wings are
> > > > everywhere, leaving their own special marks behind. They inhabit the
> > zoo
> > > > because that's where the food is and guns aren't. The airport has
> > > hunters on
> > > > a regular basis who have special permits to shoot on sight Canadian
> > > geese.
> > > > they spray the eggs with Pam coking spray. It helps, but a mass
> > > eradication
> > > > program would be the only , if you will accept the term, final
> > solution.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chuck Norcutt
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:01 PM
> > > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> > > > Subject: Re: [OM] swans
> > > >
> > > > Mute swans in the US are considered an invasive species that threaten
> > > > our native birds, other wildlife and aquatic vegetation.  They used
> to
> > > > be protected by a treaty between the US and Canada to protect
> > > > migratory
> > > > waterfowl along the "Atlantic Flyway".  But they were declared an
> > > > invasive species and lost that protection about 10 years ago.  The US
> > > > Fish and Wildlife service is getting aggressive over control measures
> > > > and urging the states to take measures to significantly reduce the
> > > > population.
> > > > <
> http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Blackwater/what_we_do/invasivespecies.html>
> > > > In some states they are hunted in extended hunting seasons or simply
> > > > killed outright.  In Massachusetts the preferred solution (in 2006)
> > > > was
> > > > egg addling. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_egg_addling>
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Norcutt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/9/2014 3:14 PM, John Hudson wrote:
> > > >> Knowingly, or unknowingly, damage a swan in the UK and you could be
> > > >> looking
> > > >> at a very serious period of incarceration with little chance of
> > > >> parole
> > > >> !
> > > >>
> > > >> jh
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:42 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.  I haven't seen any swans since we left the Boston area 7
> > years
> > > >> ago.  But they're not very welcome there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chuck Norcutt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2/8/2014 10:45 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote:
> > > >>> Local residents of the pond down the road ½mi/1km. We've had some
> > > >>> temps
> > > >>> in the 20'sF and they've kept this patch of water open for feeding.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=11326
> > > >>>
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