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Re: [OM] A shot with higher dilution for contrast control

Subject: Re: [OM] A shot with higher dilution for contrast control
From: Michael Wong <michael1015@xxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 02:36:27 +0800
It's one of pictures I exhibited at Hong Kong Cultural Centre in Dec last
year. I printed this picture one take as "copy" (Should be called "direct
print"?). Remember that a minor burning at bottom of the picture to make
those area "darker" to balance the picture only.


Regards,
Michael


On 9 July 2012 02:28, Michael Wong <michael1015@xxxxxx> wrote:

> A sample of night shot with dilution 1:15, HC110, F16, 36sec.
> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6424506217_cee9d8e3f4_b.jpg
>
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
>
>
> On 9 July 2012 02:10, Michael Wong <michael1015@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Joel,
>> Speak simply, my way is going to keep "one" contrast for my films. Most
>> of my pictures are printed with #2-1/2 or #3 variable contrast filter for
>> Ilford variable RC paper or variable fibre paper. If I developed films
>>  with one dilution for all contrast, I'll get different contrast films,
>> it'll be very difficult to control printing in darkroom.
>>
>> My way, normally I wouldn't apply unofficial dilution H formula for my
>> films since the film goes too "soft" except I need to compress the light
>> area. But I am seldom to apply it.
>>
>> This is the sample of development with 1:10 dilution for strength the
>> film contrast due to the shot were taken at very low contrast environment.
>> This picture were taken in the end of Oct 2010, normally misty in Hong
>> Kong's winter. I remember that day was very "grey". It was my first time to
>> try dilution 1:10 to "push" contrast.
>> http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1348/5145541163_af559b8ef2_b.jpg
>>
>>
>> Time, temperature, frequency of agitation, and dilution will affect the
>> film contrast, I'll keep same time, same temperature, same frequency of
>> agitation but different dilution to control the contrast. My private, it's
>> the easy way to control.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 9 July 2012 01:00, Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your method.  Much better to develop everything if possible
>>> with the proper tonalities to print on a #2 paper (or whatever you
>>> standardize on).  There are many variables one can use to deviate from
>>> standard practice in order to develop for unusual, non-standard
>>> exposures.
>>>
>>> I have never heard of using different dilution strengths to meet these
>>> different exposure conditions.  That is quite an interesting approach.
>>> Most people, I would guess, use a single dilution and vary the amount of
>>> development time to increase or decrease contrast in the negatives.
>>>
>>> I think I understand your methods clearly enough.  I just don't really
>>> know what dilution strength you are using compared to me.  1:20 is a
>>> very strong dilution of the version of HC110 I use and would require a
>>> very short development time for a slower film.  It wouldn't be a useful
>>> dilution level, in terms of my experience with the HC110 I have
>>> available in the USA) to decrease the contrast of the negative.  So I
>>> have concluded that we are using ratios like 1:20 or 1:63 (which is what
>>> dilution H is in parts of HC110 syrup to water) in different ways.  In
>>> other words, your "1" part of HC110 is different from my "1."
>>>
>>> Dilution H (1:63) is unofficial, not really sanctioned by Kodak, and
>>> provides a lot of flexibility to alter development effects by changing
>>> agitation or time of development.  It is considered good for
>>> compensating development, which allows the developer to become exhausted
>>> in the highlight areas while allowing the lower tones to develop more,
>>> so it can be a good dilution strength to accomplish the same thing you
>>> had in mind in your example.
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing your experiences with HC110.
>>>
>>> Joel W.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Michael Wong wrote:
>>> > As my another post said, my dilution forms are not "general formula".
>>> My
>>> > teacher taught me to develop films with different dilutions for
>>> different
>>> > contrast shots. Thus, do not think any "general formula" on my
>>> pictures.
>>> > I
>>> > consider the film development process to make enlarging prints more
>>> easy.
>>> >
>>> > Some of my classmates wouldn't care the process of film development and
>>> > make enlarging prints difficulty. They'd rather to enhance printing
>>> > skills
>>> > to "rescue" the picture more than concentrate at preparation before
>>> > shots,
>>> > how to develop a good film. I understood "rescue skills" in darkroom
>>> is a
>>> > benefit for those pictures are not good in shooting or developing but
>>> > there
>>> > will spend much of time & money for a picture. Thus, I will take good
>>> > preparation before the shot & develop a good film more than to
>>> "rescue" a
>>> > picture. That's my view, just share my 2 cents.
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