I like it. Here's another one with grain that I don't think I would like
as well without the grain:
http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/142903823
Tina
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Bob Whitmire <bwhitmire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Here's one with grain. On the monitor, it's kinda bland. Gallery customers
> love it. Some of them enough to buy it. Natch, on FB, it looks even
> crappier.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d89m6qq
>
> --Bob
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Ken Norton wrote:
>
> >> The real world does not contain film grain. How can you confuse real
> >> with plastic? :-)
> >
> > That doesn't matter. A photographic print is already an interpretative
> > representation of the real world. The print is NOT real. It is not a
> > "window" in the wall looking out at those mountains or whatever it is
> > that is contained in the image. It's like a painting--it's not a
> > transparent window, it's an object in its own right.
> >
> > Making a "transparent" window lined by a picture frame may be the
> > intent of some photographers, but those of us who are guided by the
> > ideals of traditional art forms, the photograph is intended to be the
> > tangible object itself.
> >
> > This is specifically true when we deal with B&W photography. By its
> > very nature, a B&W photograph is far far away from "real world". As
> > such, we need to define for the viewer the rules of visual engagement.
> > For instance, we need to establish reference points of light and dark
> > to identify the tonal end zones. An image that is strictly all grays
> > won't fly (except in extremely rare examples and they need to be
> > matted and framed in hard white/black surrounds). Color images are
> > another beast, though. In color, a mid-tone must remain mid-tone (as
> > expected in the real world) and establishing tonal boundaries are not
> > required.
> >
> > So, where does grain come in? I think grain is important in several
> regards.
> >
> > 1. It can be part of the subject
> > 2. It can be part of the composition
> > 3. It can be used to establish mood
> > 4. It can be used to provide a critical point of focus for the eye in
> > areas where there is nothing that is in focus
> > 5. It can be used to soften the harshness of dominant blacks and whites.
> >
> > I'm sure there are other factors, but those are ones that come to mind
> > as I talk out of my hat.
> >
> > AG
>
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