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Re: [OM] Photo Editing Software -- Advice Needed... (HELP)!

Subject: Re: [OM] Photo Editing Software -- Advice Needed... (HELP)!
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:10:53 -0500
Anything wrong with using ACR for ORF conversions?  You can get ACR as 
part of PhotoShop Elements for under $80 if you look around.  Since I'm 
no longer doing portraits and swapping heads, etc. I do the majority of 
my work these days in ACR.

Cbuck Norcutt

On 1/27/2012 7:53 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote:
> Other than that, how'd you like Aftershot, Chuck?
>
> Has anyone compared an Aftershot raw conversion of an ORF at 100% with
> one done in Studio?
>
> I still might buy Sagelight, as I think it is fine for Canaan raw
> conversions, but I still have to convert ORFs with Studio.  It's no
> surprise that things like this work well for Canaan just because of
> their penetration. One of my gripes with reviews of the E cameras is
> that they usually use a third-party SW for raw conversion, and why
> shouldn't they when it works just fine for C cameras?  I keep forgetting
> the fact, only to rediscover it when I "go to strangers."
>
> Joel W.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012, at 07:37 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>> I haven't read anything yet about using AfterShot Pro but, based on your
>> query, I took about 5 minutes to play with it to convert a raw image,
>> adjust exposure and color and then convert to B&W.  I didn't discover
>> (yet) how to convert to B&W while controlling the color (similar to how
>> you would use color filters in B&W photography) but I have no doubt it
>> exists.
>>
>> It looks to me like everything you are likely to require for a very long
>> time is in your $20 acquisition.  Pay attention to the tabs at the left
>> side of the screen to navigate the files and the tabs at the right side
>> of the screen for editing the images starting with exposure and color
>> info.  You can probably do a great deal with nothing more than what's on
>> the startup screen for finding files and editing exposure and color info.
>>
>> ps:  I have no idea what it did with my corrections to a single image.
>> I suppose it created some sort of sidecar file describing the changes
>> but haven't checked that.  I just closed the application without doing
>> any deliberate save and expected a question about whether I wanted to
>> cancel the changes I had made but that didn't happen.  I guess I need to
>> read the destructions.
>>
>> I found one thing I definitely didn't like.  On the file navigation
>> dialoge if you have long, descriptive file names (as I do) and multiple
>> subdirectory trees there appears to be no provision to scroll the list
>> of file names back and forth within their own window.  To read the full
>> directory or file names it's necessary to enlarge the width of the
>> window thus squeezing the available window space for the image.  I sure
>> hope there's a way around that as it would be a pain to continually
>> resize that window.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/2012 2:28 AM, J. Timothy Dean wrote:
>>> __________
>>>
>>> At the outset of this message reply...  I must admit that I am definitely
>>> still a * RAW * (pun intended) 'Newbie' with respect to working with and
>>> editing Digital Imaging Files (as I just picked up Corel After Shot Pro for
>>> $20).  BTW...  Thank-you to all of the 'respective' OM List Members' for
>>> bringing this Software 'deal' (After Shot Pro) to my attention.  :-)
>>> __
>>>
>>> For the last 30 years or so...  I have been an avid B&W Darkroom User ('on
>>> and off').  But as it is just no longer in the cards for me (so to speak)
>>> to print my own images in the darkroom any longer...  I now find myself
>>> being dragged (somewhat unwillingly still)...  Into the 21st Century.
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> Where are you Sir Fred Picker...  To help save me from the onslaught of
>>> 'Digital Demons'?...
>>> (Yes...  I am sadly aware that Fred unfortunately has now passed away...).
>>> :-(
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________
>>>
>>> "The point is simple.
>>>
>>> It doesn't take two and one-half days to make one print...  Because the
>>> photographer didn’t know what he was doing.
>>>
>>> It takes two and one-half days...  Because the photographer knew  ***
>>> Exactly *** (italics added) what he was doing and was tirelessly determined
>>> to repeat the statement -- As clearly and beautifully as its original
>>> appearance (in his minds’ eye).”
>>> ~~ Fred Picker ~~
>>>
>>> ________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI...  Amongst the many camera systems that I own...  I still shoot with
>>> my three (3) OM-4T(i) Bodies (LUV that 'Spot Metering') and 'bevy' of OM
>>> legacy lenses.  After searching 'high and low' for quite a few years...  I
>>> finally managed to pick up 'Truly MINT' (LN) versions of both the Macro
>>> 90mm F/2.0 (thanks Ed for allowing me to wrestle it out of your 'strong
>>> clutches') and the 100mm F/2.0.
>>> (They do make a 'Nice Pair' -- Don't you think?)...
>>>
>>> All that is missing now is the 250mm F/2.0...  LOL.  BIG BIG Smile!!!
>>>
>>> (As I am blind in one eye...  My 'personal vision' of the world around me
>>> has always been starting at the very least with a Short Telephoto FOV and
>>> 'on up').  Wide Angle lenses (even a 35mm...  let alone a 28, 24, 21 and 18
>>> etc -- You get the idea) ...  Just * Don't * work for me...
>>> __
>>>
>>> Like many, I think that I would kill (or at the very least give up an arm
>>> and a leg) for th"BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" Part 1, Chapter 1, pg. 3e
>>> opportunity of obtaining a Mint Copy (Fat Chance -- Eh!) of the Olympus **OM
>>> Zuiko AUTO-T 250mm F/2.0 ED-IF Lens...  As this IMNSHO is arguably without
>>> a doubt the finest OM lens that Olympus ever built!!!
>>>
>>> Mr. Dawid Loubser...  Are you out there??????????  Can you still hear
>>> me??????????
>>>
>>> You may be some 8400 Miles away from me...  BUT Like they say...  "You can
>>> run but you can't hide!".
>>>
>>> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
>>> ~~ George Orwell ~~  (Nineteen Eighty-Four).
>>>
>>> Hahahaha!!!
>>> LOL.
>>> Smile.
>>> __
>>>
>>>
>>> I would of also liked to have picked up Sagelight (as it looks like it has
>>> some interesting potential and the 'User Interface' looks very nice)...
>>> But as I am running a Mac and would still need to purchase a new Windows
>>> Emulator for it (such as VMware Fusion 4?)...  This is still on my 'wish
>>> list'.
>>> __
>>>
>>> It should be noted...  Although I had CS5 on my Mac (thanks!...  you know
>>> who you are)...  That I found that the 'learning curve' was just too steep
>>> for me (at least at the present time).  :-(
>>>
>>> I really don't want to be on my computer 16 hours a day (Day 'in'...  Day
>>> 'out')...  just trying to get 'up to speed' with a piece of software like
>>> CS5 (which perhaps takes a couple of years to get really conversant with).
>>> I would really much rather be photographing...
>>>
>>> I am more than sure of course...  That all of you list members understand
>>> all of this.  :-)
>>> __
>>>
>>> Therefore...  Does anybody have any suggestions for a good software photo
>>> package for me to use on my Mac (PSE, Apple Aperture ???).
>>>
>>> It should be noted that I do not work with large catalogs...  But rather
>>> prefer to work on only one (1) single image at a time (just as I would
>>> 'craft' an image when I was in the darkroom).
>>>
>>> Also, as I only still shoot B&W film (Film RULES IMHO! *^&%^$~!=*)...  This
>>> could perhaps alter your suggestions...  (as I might want to think 'down
>>> the line' about adding some good B&W 'Plug-Ins' or additional advanced
>>> 'Sharpening Tools' -- As it is still film that we are talking about
>>> here)...
>>> __
>>>
>>> I would be looking for something that is fairly powerful (with an excellent
>>> set of Tools)...  But ALSO an as easy to use  and understand interface (if
>>> at all possible).
>>> I have previously tried using some of the free Photo Editing Software out
>>> there (like GIMP)...  But immediately found it to be 'too limiting'.
>>> ARRRGH!!!  ^~+_-*#@&!
>>>
>>> Also...  I would like to be able to work on a file...  While still being
>>> able to view the original file at the same time (Is this possible)?  I find
>>> it frustrating having to 'toggle' back in forth between files (to compare
>>> the editing changes that have been applied).  I am of course sure that all
>>> of you guys and gal (i.e. 'the one and only inimitable' Candace) understand
>>> all of this.  :-)
>>>
>>> Thank-you in advance for any comments and suggestions that you may have for
>>> me.  Like they say...  "They will  *** All ***  be greatly appreciated!"
>>> __
>>>
>>> In conclusion  once again...  I would like to thank-you Chuck for taking
>>> the time to share your thoughts (and most certainly very 'Tried and True'
>>> Professional expertise -- Smile)...  With respect to how you organize *
>>> your * different photographic image files.
>>>
>>> Although in the overall scheme of things this would seem rather basic...  I
>>> can already see the importance of being very well organized with respect to
>>> your folders and the naming conventions that one should choose to use for
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Thank-you!
>>> __
>>>
>>> -Tim.
>>> ______
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>    Although I don't shoot both raw and JPEGs at the same time I do 
>>>>> separate
>>>>>    them into different folders like Moose does.
>>>
>>>>>    When I shoot anything (raw from the Canon or Minolta, JPEG from the
>>>>>    Samsung) it goes into the primary folder which is named something like:
>>>
>>>>>    2012-01-26 - Emerson Point Preserve
>>>>>    This primary folder contains whatever came straight out of the camera.
>>>>>    Assuming I've even worked on them at all this folder will always have 
>>>>> at
>>>>>    least one sub-folder titled:
>>>
>>>>>    Converted
>>>>>    The Converted folder contains the results of exposure and other
>>>>>    corrections... anything that can be performed in ACR whether raw or 
>>>>> JPEG
>>>>>    including undimensioned crops for straightening.
>>>
>>>>>    It most likely will also have a sub-folder named:
>>>>>    Discards
>>>>>    Things I probably won't use but was unwilling to delete (immediately)
>>>>>    Outright deletions are usually limited to those things like bad focus,
>>>>>    motion blur, blown highlights, etc.  Things that can't be salvaged.
>>>
>>>>>    The Converted folder may ultimately have a sub-folder named Crops.  The
>>>>>    Crops folder contains non-dimensioned crops but most (panos excepted)
>>>>>    will likely be cropped to a specific aspect ratio.  The Crops folder 
>>>>> may
>>>>>    have a sub-folder named Prints.  The Prints folder contains dimensioned
>>>>>    and sharpened versions from the Crops folder which are specifically for
>>>>>    printing.
>>>
>>> __________
>> --
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