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Subject: Re: [OM] starving Africans
From: iwert bernakiewicz <zuikooh@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:55:34 +0200
I agree on that, but don't forget our trawlers which are fishing the
waters empty...
(and that is not only problematic for the local people)

Iwert

2009/10/16 Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Wiliam, the local people in African countries are starving because of
> war, corrupt government etc., not because of Western investment.
> Without that investment, they would be even worse off.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote:
>
>> So true Iwert, we buy locally whenever we can also. But here the
>> farmes
>> charge almost as much as the super markets:-(
>>
>> Come to think of farming I remember that european food corporations
>> are
>> producing fruit in Afrika where it is cheaper to produce while the
>> local
>> people there are almost starving from hunger. I even believe that this
>> is paid for with EU tax money. Saomeone can verify or deny, I am sure.
>>
>> Wiliam
>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: iwert bernakiewicz [mailto:zuikooh@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 16 oktober 2009 12:05
>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 40: sunny Spain and
>>> rainy Belgium
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the house skeletons... About the farmers, I'm living
>>> in a small town in a rural area and heave quite some farmer
>>> friends. I really understand their anger. If you would know
>>> what they get for their products and the relation to the
>>> final price you would be terrified. I really admire the
>>> farmers, which are doing hard work out on the fields, rain or
>>> not, and taking care for our basic needs. My father has a
>>> blueberry field, when we go to the fruit auction we can get
>>> an average of 2 euro a kilo. For that price you have to buy
>>> the auctioneers little boxes, packaging, etc, etc... Then you
>>> see them at carrefour (there is an identification
>>> number) for 2,5 euro for 100 grams. That is more than ten
>>> times the price we get bruto, and twenty times the price if
>>> we count in our own cost. So we stopped going to the auction
>>> houses, searched for direct customers and now sell for a
>>> standard price of 8 euro a kilo all season long.  we get 4
>>> times the price and the customers get one third the price.
>>> You see this happening here locally more and more, and if I
>>> go shopping @ the farms (which we do a lot) we support the
>>> farmers and still get our fresh fruit and vegetables for far
>>> less than the supermarket. Farmers can do this on a small
>>> scale for the local market and for fruit, vegetables and
>>> sometimes meat, but if you are into milk, things change: you
>>> can only sell to big corporations which dictate the price, so
>>> no, the farmers don't have to be paid by tax money, but they
>>> should get a fair price for what they do. If you'ld have had
>>> a decline in income of 30 - 50% in the last 5 years you
>>> wouldn't be happy either. Il'd rather have happy farmers than
>>> rich multinationals :).
>>>
>>> I know apple farmers which started selling directly and can
>>> now live a decent life in stead of living in a few rooms
>>> inside the barn. But it takes courage to sell directly, and
>>> you need the contacts, farmers are not managers mostly...
>>>
>>> Iwert
>>>
>>> 2009/10/16 Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> Last week I was on a very short trip to Brussels, drove around
>>>> Alicante with my sister, and of course continued my daily hunt for
>>>> images. It is all here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=294
>>>>
>>>> And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated.
>>>>
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