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Subject: Re: [OM] starving Africans
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:59:31 +0200
Wiliam, the local people in African countries are starving because of  
war, corrupt government etc., not because of Western investment.  
Without that investment, they would be even worse off.

Cheers,
Nathan

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On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote:

> So true Iwert, we buy locally whenever we can also. But here the  
> farmes
> charge almost as much as the super markets:-(
>
> Come to think of farming I remember that european food corporations  
> are
> producing fruit in Afrika where it is cheaper to produce while the  
> local
> people there are almost starving from hunger. I even believe that this
> is paid for with EU tax money. Saomeone can verify or deny, I am sure.
>
> Wiliam
>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: iwert bernakiewicz [mailto:zuikooh@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Verzonden: vrijdag 16 oktober 2009 12:05
>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion
>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 40: sunny Spain and
>> rainy Belgium
>>
>>
>> I like the house skeletons... About the farmers, I'm living
>> in a small town in a rural area and heave quite some farmer
>> friends. I really understand their anger. If you would know
>> what they get for their products and the relation to the
>> final price you would be terrified. I really admire the
>> farmers, which are doing hard work out on the fields, rain or
>> not, and taking care for our basic needs. My father has a
>> blueberry field, when we go to the fruit auction we can get
>> an average of 2 euro a kilo. For that price you have to buy
>> the auctioneers little boxes, packaging, etc, etc... Then you
>> see them at carrefour (there is an identification
>> number) for 2,5 euro for 100 grams. That is more than ten
>> times the price we get bruto, and twenty times the price if
>> we count in our own cost. So we stopped going to the auction
>> houses, searched for direct customers and now sell for a
>> standard price of 8 euro a kilo all season long.  we get 4
>> times the price and the customers get one third the price.
>> You see this happening here locally more and more, and if I
>> go shopping @ the farms (which we do a lot) we support the
>> farmers and still get our fresh fruit and vegetables for far
>> less than the supermarket. Farmers can do this on a small
>> scale for the local market and for fruit, vegetables and
>> sometimes meat, but if you are into milk, things change: you
>> can only sell to big corporations which dictate the price, so
>> no, the farmers don't have to be paid by tax money, but they
>> should get a fair price for what they do. If you'ld have had
>> a decline in income of 30 - 50% in the last 5 years you
>> wouldn't be happy either. Il'd rather have happy farmers than
>> rich multinationals :).
>>
>> I know apple farmers which started selling directly and can
>> now live a decent life in stead of living in a few rooms
>> inside the barn. But it takes courage to sell directly, and
>> you need the contacts, farmers are not managers mostly...
>>
>> Iwert
>>
>> 2009/10/16 Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> Last week I was on a very short trip to Brussels, drove around
>>> Alicante with my sister, and of course continued my daily hunt for
>>> images. It is all here:
>>>
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=294
>>>
>>> And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated.
>>>
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