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Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Small Prints--print mess up

Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Small Prints--print mess up
From: "Sue Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:00:11 -0500
Each printer has it's own best native resolution, usually relating to the 
rip software. Don't remember what it is for the frontier but I'll bet that 
240 is close.

I know that for stuff printed on my friends Durst it wants 240 and srgb 8 
bit, but the prints look gorgeous.

Bill Pearce
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From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Small Prints--print mess up


>I just sharpen in PhotoShop using unsharp mask and a simple rule I
> derived from Bruce Frazer's book on sharpening.  First resize to a ppi
> setting that the printer won't alter.  I use 300 ppi for my own printer
> but 250 ppi sending to Mpix.  I used to send them 300 ppi as well until
> I discovered that the printer (whatever it is) will automagically resize
> to 250 ppi to suit itself and mangle my sharpening.  After it's resized
> to the appropriate resolution for the output device I use unsharp mask
> with the image on screen at 25-30%.  While not critical to be precise,
> the rationale is to compensate for the resolution you're getting on
> screen vs on the print.  If you're going to print at 300 dpi and the
> viewing screen is only 90 ppi then you want to view at 90/300 = 0.3 or
> 30% of full pixel view.  Once the image is at the right viewing size
> then use unsharp mask to sharpen until the image looks just a bit too
> crispy.  That because the print process will soften the edges as you've
> noted.
>
> If all the images are starting from the same size you should be able to
> generate a batch script for PhotoShop to automate the process.  Could be
> you'd want some images to be a little more or less sharp so re-do the
> few outliers as required.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> usher99@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> Generally like to print on a Fuji frontier---Ran out of time for a
>> small project for a whole bunch of 4X6's. Used the labs "print Wizzard
>>  from the lab for rapid crop of 4X3 Jpegs, down res, and presumptive
>> appropriate sharpening.
>> Results--ugh for most, waaay tooo soft appearing.  I'm not looking for
>> perfection in  a batch process of this for small prints or a
>> hypersharpened look , but that It was a leap of faith that did not
>> payoff. I have Raw backups from the G9 for most of them. Some required
>> more attention so as long as I had to fuss, I used the RAW file and did
>> most adjustments in PS CS3. There is another way to send the files
>> directly and bypass the print wizzard. Those were better. (usual modus
>> operendi) The in camera sharpening set a bit down for usual display
>> size and allowing for later adjustment if the RAW not used--not too
>> often, if I have time.
>>
>> The Portra 160 NC from OM were nice right off the bat, in general. So
>> is there a way to batch down res and appropriate approximate sharpening
>> for a Fuji frontier? The cropping even can take some time in PS, but I
>> may not be doing that the best way. I have heard of a NIK software
>> sharpenener that has batch sharpening for various printers and even
>> different setting for papers. Never have used Qimage but it has been
>> mentioned on the list as the best in up-res. This can't be that
>> hard--what does Joe Shmo do?  The manager can do some batch adjustments
>> at her end too but I'd rather send her the fiinal package if possible.
>> She apparently can't accomplish that the "print wizzard", but only from
>> original JPG's and likely doesn't want Huge files clogging their inbox,
>> though I can send her a CD or whatever.
>>
>> Sheepishly posted,
>> A not feeling so sharp today, Mike
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