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Subject: [OM] Re: Netherlands advice
From: "Bart Wientjes" <bartjew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:02:04 +0100
Robert,

You have a good point, for a densely populated country as The
Netherlands there are relatively large nature reservations. Only....
they do not reserve nature as it has been, they reserve nature as it
has been created. They are all man-made, on former agricultural
grounds or sea bottom. That's just not the real deal to me.
Anyhow, you are correct in them being impressive, especially the
Oostvaardersplassen, near the IJsselmeer, which I suppose you refer
to. If I am not mistaking Nathan has posted images of them.

To continue my Texel promotion ;) , there is a reservation called 'De
Slufter', where the sea is allowed to get behind the dunes, thus
creating an interesting brackish biotope for many birds and plants.
When you look the place up on google maps (53.139357,4.807978), the
contrast with the adjecent farmland is striking.

Regards,
Bart

P.S.
Riddle of the Sands would be situated on the German Waddenzee islands,
some 200 km to the East. They must be worth visiting as well.



On 3/27/08, Robert McFetridge <rmcfet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> As I recall thats where the story Riddle of the Sands took place.
>
> By the way Bart I would have to disagree with you regarding the
> Netherlands not having rural lands ( I am sure you must be kidding).
> I have visited on a number of occasions and have been struck by the
> rural environment. As a biologist I have visited several areas of
> ecosystem restoration along the coast of the North Sea as well as
> along the Iljsmeer (sp?) with Dutch and other colleagues where there
> is some of the best marsh land restoration I have ever seen going on.
> Without doubt the Netherlands are a busy , very full of people
> country but 'wild' lands do exist and in a small way are growing once
> again. Something the Dutch should justly be proud of.
> Bob
> On 27-Mar-08, at 3:46 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh, that brings back memories, Bart!
> >
> > I used to use the range on Vliehors next to Texel -- in Jaguars and
> > Tornados based in Germany at Brüggen and Laarbruch.  As we came off a
> > bombing run we would turn left onto southeast to avoid overflying
> > Texel.  It was quite difficult sometimes as the visibility was often
> > quite poor.
> >
> > But I've just had a look at Vliehors with Google Earth and I can't see
> > the range's targets or control towers.  It looks as if "Cornfield", as
> > it was called, is no longer.
> >
> > http://members.home.nl/area36/milnl/vlie.htm
> >
> > I'm sure that a visit to Texel would be a tranquil experience,
> > Donald ...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On 27 Mar 2008, at 19:06, Bart Wientjes wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Donald,
> >>
> >> Really rural areas do not exist in The Netherlands, but I guess you
> >> mean the less-urbanazied parts. :)
> >>
> >> I would suggest visiting one of the islands in the Waddenzee. They
> >> have a lot to offer if you're fond of sea and beach, but like that to
> >> be in balance with a bit of nature and quiet. Although tourism is one
> >> of their main lines of income, they seem to manage it very well; it
> >> doesn't affect the charm of the islands.
> >> The isle of Texel (http://www.texel.nl/index_en.html) is the largest,
> >> and easily accessible by ferry. All adolescents spend their time in
> >> and around the town of De Koog, so all other towns are safe :)
> >> Culinairly, the island's special is lamb but you can choose from
> >> plenty of fish dishes as well. Ideally you can explore the island by
> >> bicycle. If you want to spare yourself from fixing Fiona's, rent
> >> bikes
> >> on the island. It is the common thing to do.
> >> The smaller islands (Vlieland, Schiermonnikoog) have other
> >> attractions. For one thing they are so small, they do not allow cars
> >> on the island.
> >
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