Scott Peden wrote:
> So, I am trying to find out how my Tokina stacks up against other 80-200
> lens's. Misha had nothing to gain and everything to lose by telling me it
> was a good lens, since I already had it.
Maybe so but, IMHO, the following advice is balderdash.
"And I have heard that Tokina may be a good lens, but like the Phoenix,
their Fish eye's are suppose to be good, stay away from the rest of
their stuff (my brick and mortar store told me that)."
>
> I have no idea where he got his data and would like to find out what it was
> he used to look it up while we were on the phone.
Call him back and ask him.
I did a quick search for test data myself and didn't find anything. But
I did locate this list of lenses sold through the 60's-80's and see
that the EMZ line was priced lower than the AT-X line.
<http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~loui/lenses>
AT-X has long been (and still is) Tokina's top designation for their
highest build quality and fastest lenses. Your EMZ however, while
cheaper than the AT-X lens of the period, is only f/4 vs the AT-X's
f/2.8. My inference is that the EMZ line is only cheaper by virtue of
being a slower lens, not that it's necessarily of lesser optical quality
than the AT-X. Constant f/4 with macro feature in 1983 was still a
cat's meow lens.
I wouldn't fret over it. Unless you make 16x20's from two different
lenses mounted on heavy tripods in a side-by-side shoot out I doubt that
you'll ever see any difference between your EMZ and any competing lens.
Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Chuck Norcutt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:12 AM
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Re: New Person to the group
>
> I'm referring to Tokina and Phoenix lenses in general. I have no
> knowledge of the particular lenses you're talking about. As I said,
> there is significant variation within brands and lens lines within
> brands. My main point is that store fellas (them what works for
> commissions) are not to be trusted for buying advice. Get your advice
> elsewhere where there are no conflicts of interest. Holds true for cars
> and everything else you buy as well. Lenses are not unique in that respect.
>
> The collective knowledge on this list is worth 10,000 store fellas and
> is 100,000 times more reliable.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> Scott Peden wrote:
>> Chuck,
>>
>> So the basis of the question is, Where can I go to check lens's out
> myself?
>> You have different information on the Tokina Lens that I have which the
>> online store persons told me was an award winner in '78?
>>
>> Or are you referring to the Phoenix Fish eye, or just the phoenix lens's
> in
>> particular that the brick and mortar store person told me about.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Chuck Norcutt
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:42 AM
>> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [OM] Re: New Person to the group
>>
>> Fire your camera store fella. In most camera stores the best performing
>> lens of all time is whatever they happen to have in stock.
>>
>> Lens brands are a first good indication of quality but, as in all
>> things, there may be significant performance variation within the line
>> and even between samples. Zuikos are generally excellent lenses but not
>> all of them. There are a few duds in the OM lineup. Tokina and Phoenix
>> are very different horses. Tokina is an old line Japanese optical
>> company which designs and manufactures its own lenses. Phoenix is a
>> marketing company which sources a limited set of low cost lenses
>> wherever they can get them. Some perform very well for the price.
>> Others not so hot.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> Scott Peden wrote:
>>> A Camera store fella, Close Focus, Misha, told me, when I first got
>> started,
>>> that my Tokina EMZ 820 80-200 mm F -4 Y/CX for Yashica FR. Contax won an
>>> award the year it came out, 1978. It is OK, it just isn't near enough
>> Zoom,
>>> and I have a 4/3rds adaptor for it, but can't use any of the 2 or 3 X
>>> teleconverters, as the ones I have are OM's.
>>>
>>> And I have heard that Tokina may be a good lens, but like the Phoenix,
>> their
>>> Fish eye's are suppose to be good, stay away from the rest of their stuff
>>> (my brick and mortar store told me that).
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