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[OM] Re: E-300 was Candace

Subject: [OM] Re: E-300 was Candace
From: "Candace Lemarr" <CandaceRocks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:34:54 -0600
Thanx everyone. Walt, you are way too smart for me. Especially first thing 
in the morning, I need at least one more cup of coffee. :-) I think I'll 
spend some time playing with it this week, as I have the 6 month warranty on 
the last repair. I heard a rumor form one Oly customer rep (but you must 
understand I've talked to probably 6 or 7, so I take what the reps tell me 
with a grain of salt) and he told me that Oly will try to repair a camera 
twice, but if it comes back for the same issue a third time, they either 
offer an upgrade, or a replacement. We are about to find out. Currently, the 
camera listed as the upgrade for any E-series camera is the E-1. Isn't that 
interesting? I may bite, too as the 150,000 shutter release expected life 
span is pretty impressive over the 300's 50,000, also the splash proof-ness 
(that's my word, but y'all may borrow it if you'd like) is attractive to the 
mom of two little water lovers.

Joel, I have 5 CF cards, one lexar, the rest sandisk. four of them are 1gb, 
one of them is 2gb (the sandisk extreme III which is very nice) And at first 
I thought that it may be the cards, or one of them. But, it happens with all 
of them, even when freshly formatted. So, again, don't *think* that's it.

I'll let you all know how it works this week...and at exactly what point I 
decide to ship it back to Oly. Hey!!You know what??? I just this second 
realized that they did NOT reimburse me for shipping this last time! They 
said they would! Now, another thing to work on. Heck, 30.00 is 30.00.
Candace<<--slayer of dslr's




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:35 AM
Subject: [OM] Re: Candace


>I agree with Moose's analysis and would only add that it could also be
> an intermittent hardware problem or a firmware bug.  Regardless, what
> they all have in common is that the camera is defective and should be
> replaced if they haven't been able to fix it in two tries.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
> Moose wrote:
>
>> Candace Lemarr wrote:
>>
>>>OK, but, see...<snip long, very sad story>
>>>    Now...does that make any sense to you? My brain has been working
>>>overtime on this. Could the fl-50 make the camera do something like that?
>>>Could my batteries be doing it? Could my charger be shorting out or some
>>>weird thing, and screwing up my battery which in turn is messing with my
>>>camera? I have 3 batteries, and the camera freezes with all of them.
>>>
>>
>> The one thing that these troubles have in common is the loss of camera
>> setting information when it should not be lost.
>>
>> All digicams have some provision for maintaining such info when you
>> change the batteries. In the case of the E-300, page 127 of the manual 
>> says:
>>
>> "The date/time setting is saved for approximately 3 months using the
>> built-in
>> battery. Depending on how the camera is used, the date/time setting may 
>> be
>> erased earlier. Date/time settings will also be lost if the camera is
>> left for a long
>> period with no battery loaded. The internal battery will be fully
>> recharged in
>> about one day with the camera’s battery loaded."
>>
>> I don't know specifically about the E-300, but with many electronic
>> devices with settings backup batteries, including computers*, reliable
>> operation even with main battery/AC power available still depends on the
>> backup battery being functional. It seems like sloppy engineering, but
>> it happens quite commonly. The fact that it takes about a day to
>> recharge the back-up with the main battery in, means the current to it
>> from the main is very small.
>>
>> It the BU is dead, it's possible that the trickle from the main battery
>> is sufficient to maintain various internal settings most of the time,
>> but occasionally, the number of system demands exceed that current, the
>> voltage falls too low, operational data kept in internal memory are lost
>> and the body locks up because it no longer knows where it is or what it
>> is doing or there are incompatible conflicts in data. Removing the
>> battery and replacing it when the BU is dead restarts the operating
>> system from the non-volatile firmware storage, so it starts working 
>> again.
>>
>> Unfortunately, Oly took the more elegant solution of a built-in,
>> rechargeable back-up battery. If I had this problem in a Can*n, for
>> example, the first thing I would do is replace the battery with a fresh
>> one. Of course, it could also be in the battery connections.
>>
>> Although the manual talks only about the date and time as being saved,
>> I'll bet shot settings are also saved, otherwise, there would have been
>> noise about that foolishness before now from people changing batteries
>> in the middle of a session. You can check for sure by setting date/time,
>> taking out the battery briefly and seeing if the date and time are lost.
>> If so, you have a failure that justifies requiring Oly to service it
>> again. And a possible culprit for your other troubles that would be
>> repaired, either fixing things or eliminating one other possibility. No
>> guarantees, but who knows.
>>
>> Moose
>>
>> The E-300 is really a computer, running a version of MSDos, more than
>> likely.
>>
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