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Subject: [OM] Re: The thing about my E-1...
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:31:32 -0800
Paul Braun wrote:
> In the past, I could look at all the photos posted here, a lot of really 
> excellent shots, and could say to myself, "Well, I do have the OM4Ti, 
> but I don't have experience with the fancier, more specialized films and 
> processing that they do."  And could hide behind that excuse for why my 
> photos are decent, but not remarkable.
>
> Now, I have the same "film" and same "developing equipment" as everyone 
> else, so no more excuses.  
Unless you are in the business of selling photos, isn't the most 
important thing whether you like your results? Or even just the process? 
What does it matter what others think?

I have on occasion posted shots that just knock me out - to complete 
silence from the list. But when I go back to look at them again to see 
what's wrong with them, I usually agree with my first assessment.

There are also occasionally, but not often, I must say, shots posted 
here that I think are junk I would just toss if I took them. Yet others, 
including presumably the photographer/poster, like them a great deal.

Taste is a funny thing, and part of what makes the world so interesting.

AG posts some excellent B&W shots, then comes back and puts them down as 
derivative and not furthering the art - after several folks post 
positive comments about them. If I set my goals based on matching what 
someone else has done, and don't achieve it in my own eyes, perhaps it's 
because I might better serve myself by creating something that pleases 
my own instincts, rather than some external standard.

I can see what AG is talking about, and yet, what is completely new? 
What does advancing the art mean? Those are really internal standards 
within himself.

I recently have been scanning some decades old film I shot. I look and 
see many shots of the same things I shoot today. Todays shots are 
sometimes technically better, as I've learned a bit and have beter 
equipment and film, but essentially the same. I go out and see a pretty 
flower, know I shot one like it last year and shoot it again. And when 
the shot comes up with the look I was trying for, I still get pleasure 
out of the process and the results. So someone else might say I'm not 
progressing, and I wonder where it is I'm supposed to be going. I get 
joy out of the process, why should I care?
> Time to really buckle down, study and learn, 
>   
The way you put it, it sounds more like work than pleasure. But that's 
just one person's opinion.
> and blow off a couple thousand shots to analyze what I can do better. 
> Fortunately, it won't cost me a couple grand in developing to do that.
>   
I'm not personally convinced that is the best way to learn. With 
digital, I have certainly taken more chances than I would have with 
processing costs in mind before, with some occasionally great results. 
In fact, the ratio of keepers in certain types  has convinced me I 
should have been less careful and cheap with film.  And I have taken 
series of shots with slight variations to learn how the DSLR is 
different in things like exposure and DOF from a film SLR. Multiple 
shots where shutter speed is slow to get a sharp one out of many can 
work too, but the others just go in the bit bucket.

On the other hand, I don't shoot thousands of photos at random and I get 
a great deal of pleasure out of the process of working in the digital 
darkroom with those shots I've visualized and shot with care to optimize 
the result I wanted when I took the shot. I sometimes find myself 
thinking "I should take some more shots here, it's free and maybe that 
will improve the end result.", but mostly, I just can't see it and I'm 
content to take the one or two. Generally, I get what I want and when I 
don't, more shots usually wouldn't have helped. Just because one can 
take endless shots doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. For one 
thing, it ends up taking up a lot of time going through the "ok, but who 
cares?" shots and deciding which to keep and which to dump.

I know I waste time when I thing I should be taking pictures because I'm 
somewhere scenic, or some such, but there is nothing that visually 
excites me or that I can see as an image that will work - then I shoot 
off a bunch of pics that later just waste space and time. Those are 
times when I ry to be wise enough to just enjoy the moment and rest the 
camera.

A ramblin' Moose

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