Never mind. I'm quite wrong on that one. No connection. I'm caffeine
deficient. Must learn to not type before massive coffee input.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Timpe, Jim [mailto:Jim.Timpe@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:45 AM
>To: 'olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>
>
>That should be Esnipe belongs to eyebuy too.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Timpe, Jim [mailto:Jim.Timpe@xxxxxxxxx]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:43 AM
>>To: 'olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>
>>
>>Yes. I believe Esnipe does, too.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Hermanson
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:36 AM
>>>To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>>
>>>
>>>Ebay owns Paypal, right? Atleast that's what I read recently.
>>>----------------------------------------------------
>>>John Hermanson www.zuiko.com
>>>mail: omtech@xxxxxxxxx
>>>Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
>>>21 South Lane, Huntington NY 11743-4714
>>>631-424-2121 Turnaround 4-5 weeks
>>>----------------------------------------------------
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <fred42@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:21 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> When I got emails after my auctions being ended due to the
>>>4 lause I
>>>> had
>>>added eBay quoted that it is law in the state of California,
>>>specifically relating to credit card surcharging. Not having
>read the
>>>law or being a lawyer I can't confirm it more than that. Perhaps if
>>>anyone has a merchant account in that state they can help us
>out with
>>>this one.
>>>>
>>>> I am under the impression that Paypal's fee scale is
>>competitive to a
>>>merchant account. Looking at the other companies offering
>credit card
>>>processing (Andale, 2checkout) their fees are a little
>higher and they
>>>cite that it is less than the setup and maintenance on a merchant
>>>account.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I have been feeling like eBay and Paypal have become a
>>>> little
>>>bit too business oriented in the last couple of years. By
>that I mean
>>>the bulk/drop shipping fixed price market. I have come to
>realise that
>>>high shipping/handling charges are part of this too. I hate
>it when I
>>>have to put in a higher shipping and handling cost to ensure
>that I am
>>>not out of pocket with the Paypal fees, but the alternative
>is that I
>>>get my auctions ended and/or piss off buyers (I have had
>people refuse
>>>to pay extra for Paypal, in fact back before I had to take out the 4%
>>>clause not a single person actually paid it). eBay said that I
>>>should incorperate the fees into the selling price of the
>>>item. Which is fine for a fixed price new item but a second
>>>hand item has a more flexible price. And anyway I want to be
>>>sure that I recover the best value of the item; to me the cost
>>>of shipping and Paypal is not part of the value of an item.
>>>>
>>>> My experiences with Paypal have made me realize that every
>>>time I use
>>>> that
>>>Visa/MC card about 5 0s going to Visa/MC. I think it it
>sucks just as
>>>much everyone here, but everyone of us that uses one of
>these cards is
>>>paying them already and the businesses we are paying have to
>have that
>>>5 0n mind when pricing there services. If you wanted to buy
>shares of
>>>something then Visa is a serious one to consider given the
>way society
>>>uses their services (a nice stat is that over xmas the average usage
>>>of cards is about 4500 transactions per SECOND, a 35 0ncrease
>>>over normal).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway gripe mode off. ;)
>>>>
>>>> I am still going to buy stuff on eBay but my selling habits may
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>> Dan S
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: John Hermanson <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:41 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>>> > I doubt there is a "law" against it, it may, however,
>violate the
>>>> > rules set be the credit card processor as in
>>>"..........you promise
>>>> > not to chargeextra cc fees to the customer......"
>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------
>>>> > John Hermanson www.zuiko.com
>>>> > mail: omtech@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
>>>> > 21 South Lane, Huntington NY 11743-4714
>>>> > 631-424-2121 Turnaround 4-5 weeks
>>>> > ----------------------------------------------------
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "James N. McBride" <jnmcbr@xxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:09 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > I was informed by EB*AY that it is against the law to do that
>>>> > with credit
>>>> > > card fees (before or after the fact) but am not sure what their
>>>> > positionis
>>>> > > with PayPal fees. Asking for it after the fact is a
>bad practice
>>>> > and they
>>>> > > should be told "no".
>>>> > > /jim
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > > From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > [owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of IanG
>>>> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:19 AM
>>>> > > To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I've been getting the opposite where I've paid by Paypal and
>>>> > subsequently> received an email from the vendor requesting an
>>>> > additional 2 or 3% to
>>>> > cover
>>>> > > Paypal charges - although they had not stipulated this in the
>>>> > listing.>
>>>> > > Ian
>>>> > >
>>>> > > <<snip
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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