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Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist

Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
From: "John Hermanson" <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:36:12 -0500
Ebay owns Paypal, right?  Atleast that's what I read recently.
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John Hermanson  www.zuiko.com
mail:  omtech@xxxxxxxxx
Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
21 South Lane, Huntington NY 11743-4714
631-424-2121  Turnaround 4-5 weeks
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fred42@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist


> Hello all,
>
> When I got emails after my auctions being ended due to the 4lause I had
added eBay quoted that it is law in the state of California, specifically
relating to credit card surcharging. Not having read the law or being a
lawyer  I can't confirm it more than that. Perhaps if anyone has a merchant
account in that state they can help us out with this one.
>
> I am under the impression that Paypal's fee scale is competitive to a
merchant account. Looking at the other companies offering credit card
processing (Andale, 2checkout) their fees are a little higher and they cite
that it is less than the setup and maintenance on a merchant account.
>
> Personally I have been feeling like eBay and Paypal have become a little
bit too business oriented in the last couple of years. By that I mean the
bulk/drop shipping fixed price market. I have come to realise that high
shipping/handling charges are part of this too. I hate it when I have to put
in a higher shipping and handling cost to ensure that I am not out of pocket
with the Paypal fees, but the alternative is that I get my auctions ended
and/or piss off buyers (I have had people refuse to pay extra for Paypal, in
fact back before I had to take out the 4lause not a single person
actually paid it). eBay said that I should incorperate the fees into the
selling price of the item. Which is fine for a fixed price new item but a
second hand item has a more flexible price. And anyway I want to be sure
that I recover the best value of the item; to me the cost of shipping and
Paypal is not part of the value of an item.
>
> My experiences with Paypal have made me realize that every time I use that
Visa/MC card about 5 0s going to Visa/MC. I think it it sucks just as much
everyone here, but everyone of us that uses one of these cards is paying
them already and the businesses we are paying have to have that 5 0n mind
when pricing there services. If you wanted to buy shares of something then
Visa is a serious one to consider given the way society uses their services
(a nice stat is that over xmas the average usage of cards is about 4500
transactions per SECOND, a 35 0ncrease over normal).
>
> Anyway gripe mode off. ;)
>
> I am still going to buy stuff on eBay but my selling habits may change.
>
> Dan S
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Hermanson <omtech@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
> > I doubt there is a "law" against it, it may, however, violate the
> > rules set
> > be the credit card processor as in "..........you promise not to
> > chargeextra cc fees to the customer......"
> > ---------------------------------------------------- 
> > John Hermanson www.zuiko.com
> > mail: omtech@xxxxxxxxx
> > Camtech, Olympus Sales & Service since 1977
> > 21 South Lane, Huntington NY 11743-4714
> > 631-424-2121 Turnaround 4-5 weeks
> > ---------------------------------------------------- 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "James N. McBride" <jnmcbr@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
> >
> >
> > > I was informed by EB*AY that it is against the law to do that
> > with credit
> > > card fees (before or after the fact) but am not sure what their
> > positionis
> > > with PayPal fees. Asking for it after the fact is a bad practice
> > and they
> > > should be told "no".
> > > /jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of IanG
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:19 AM
> > > To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] A New EB*Y Twist
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been getting the opposite where I've paid by Paypal and
> > subsequently> received an email from the vendor requesting an
> > additional 2 or 3% to
> > cover
> > > Paypal charges - although they had not stipulated this in the
> > listing.>
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > <<snip
> > >
> >
> >
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