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Re: [OM] How to Capture subtle colors

Subject: Re: [OM] How to Capture subtle colors
From: "John A. Lind" <jlind@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:43:47 -0500
At 09:17 9/6/02, Garth Wood wrote:

Try a film that cranks the saturation down rather than up. For slide film, Provia's an especially good choice. For print film, Kodak's 'Portra' series works well (stay away from the ones that promise extra saturation, though). Avoid Velvia and print films like Royal Gold. And don't go too high in the ASA department, either (100 or lower, if possible). You may have to visit a pro shop to get some of these better films, but it's worth it.

Garth

I agree with Garth about cranking the saturation down.

Some additional observations about film **and** lighting which **both** make a difference:

1.  Fujichrome films:
Fuji's Provia 100F (RDP III) is certainly a substantial reduction in saturation compared to Fuji's Velvia. Fuji's Astia (also ISO 100) has less saturation compared to Provia 100F, although the reduction is not quite as substantial as the difference between Velvia and Provia 100F. Fuji's Sensia 100 is the consumer version of Astia. There is no consumer equivalent to Provia 100F.

2.  Ektachrome films:
Kodak has a confusing array of professional Ektachromes. The older daylight films are EPR-64, EPN-100, EPP-100, EPD-200 and EPL-400X. The newer daylight films are E-100S, E-100SW, E-100VS and E-200.
  EPR-64:  enhanced saturation; not what you're looking for.
  EPN-100  restrained saturation and neutral color.
  EPP-100  moderate saturation; more than EPN-100; on par with E-100S.
  EPD-200  moderate saturation.
  EPL-400X moderate saturation.
  E100S    moderate saturation; on par with EPP-100.
  E100SW   same as E100S with "warm" color balance.
  E100VS   extreme saturation; definitely not what you're looking for.
  E200     enhanced saturation; not what you're looking for.

Of the Ektachromes, EPN-100 is likely closer to what you're looking for. It's slightly more restrained than Fuji's Astia/Sensia. If that's too mild, then try E100S. Consumer equivalents:
  E100S     -- Elitechrome 100
  E100VS    -- Elitechrome 100 Extra Color
  E200      -- Elitechrome 200
  EPL-400X  -- Elitechrome 400

3.  Kodak professional color negative:
Portra NC and VC (160 or 400) both have restrained saturation compared to the Fujichrome films. NC is slightly more restrained than VC. In having them printed by a pro lab, there has been no noticeable color response difference between film speeds. All the Supra films are intended for commercial applications other than portrait and wedding. They have noticeably more saturation than either Portra.

-- John


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