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Re: [OM] OM4Ti - Memory Function

Subject: Re: [OM] OM4Ti - Memory Function
From: HI100@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:03:02 EDT
Cc: norcutt@xxxxxxx
In a previous post to this thread :

Chuck Norcutt proposed redesigning the OM TTL flash circuitry
 by adding an external adapter  placed between the flash and 
the camera.  This proposed adapter would memorise the flash 
duration by monitoring the signals starting and stoping the flash
while  in TTL mode. Then, when switched from monitor mode to 
remember time mode it would always time the stop signal to give the 
same memorised flash duration independent of the camera's 
stop flash signal. 
He went on to remark and asked for comment:
<< 
 Now you can use your 18 0ray card for TTL flash!!!  Remember, you saw
 it "exposed" here first!  OK, who can turn the logic into hardware? 
 Tim, are you there? >>

Warning : Long Engineering Content follows!

Chuck,
           this is conceptually very simple to design although there are a 
few issues that would need addressing and some difficulties that may
make it impractical at very short duration flashes
(eg macro use without diffuser). 
    Your suggestion of using a toggle or slide switch to both select modes 
and thereby show which mode is selected is good as it saves power over 
an LED. The unit could then be designed with such a low power 
consumption' as to not need an on/off switch and run off two or three 
357 cells (small).
    Why is the very short duration potentially more difficult? The shortest 
flash duration for the Olympus flashes listed on Hans's OM-sif is  1/50000
second or 20micro seconds (T32). (The camera and flash combination probably 
runs a bit longer given the low power electronics in the camera.) 
This 20uS means if we allow the light level error to be as much as 50% (!!) 
then 
the allowable timing **uncertainty** from start of flash output to stop 
flash must be less than 10uS. This may be hard given that 
triggering the flash tube to fire  may easily have more than 10uS uncertainty 
associated with it. (e.g.As the flash tube warms up from use the 
trigger voltage changes significantly.)   
I designed and built high power stroboscopes for human gait analysis 
photography many years ago, as a vacation job. I soon discovered that 
triggering flash tubes of the type used in  amateur flashes is not as 
predictable as one would like. Very high speed stroboscopes use a 
different kind of flash tube to give more predictable firing. 
(They use an additional pair of internal  electrodes in the flash tube,
unlike the amateur flashes which initiate firing with an external electrode 
capacitively coupled through the tube wall). 
Thus the timing uncertainty and the relatively long time from trigger 
signal to actual start of light output may be too variable for 
short duration flash timing.  OM2S and most later bodies trigger 
the flash  with an electronic switch so at least the mechanical 
switch bounce which would make timing impossible is eliminated 
in these cameras. It would be fairly simple to test the trigger to 
light time reproducibility with a timer and photo diode to see 
if this really is the problem I suspect. This would need careful 
testing to verify light start times are reproduceable enough. 
A way around this potential problem  would be to add a photo 
sensor to detect ** the start of light output** and time from there rather 
than
from the camera's trigger signal.
    Another possible problem is that the voltage on the flash capacitor 
may vary enough from flash to flash (impatient user!) to cause significant 
variation in exposure with a fixed time (This is eliminated by normal TTL 
flash.)
    There are now CMOS programmable logic devices with essentially 
zero power consumption running at low clock frequencies 
as would be required here.) that are easy to customise (program off PC) 
but some old cheap metal gate CMOS counters and gates could be used 
just as easily. Additionally some discrete transistors with 
resistors and protection diodes would be needed to level shift and clamp 
the input signals. Regular packaged  crystal oscillators are power hogs 
and start very slowly ( 100mS) so a fast start 
RC oscillator  started  and stopped by the flash trigger circuits 
would be more than accurate enough here. (1 op amp).

very rough estimated parts count : 
2-4 transistors , 8 disctrete parts r's ,c's etc 
10 bit counter (1uS clock ,1 mS max flash duration) ( to time and store 
number)
10 bit presettable counter 
               (times subsequent flash durations, preset from 1st timer o/p) 
a few gates and/or a flip flop or two
mechanical switch.
op amp.
357 batteries +holder
housed in OM flash extender

    Incidently, I once met Mr Flash himself ( Prof Edgerton) from MIT : he 
was an amazing character. He held many basic patents on electronic flash
and built very high power flashes operated from aircraft for photographing 
enemy
positions during WW2. These flashes were powerful enough to ignite paper 
at some significant distance! He also held the original patent on the 
autoflash (with
dump tube) . He did get one thing wrong though he was a N*k*n user :( 
He delighted in estimating flash energy (Joules) by holding his hand in front 
of the flash (at 
about 3 inches) and feeling how warm his hand got when he set it off.

Regards,
Tim Hughes
Hi100@xxxxxxx

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