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Re: [OM] IMG: Macro Experiment with Leica-R 60 Elmarit Macro Lens

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Macro Experiment with Leica-R 60 Elmarit Macro Lens
From: "Wayne Harridge" <wayne.harridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:27:21 +1100
I agree with that Frank.

...Wayne



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> 
> Interesting indeed.
> 
> For myself, a good reason to prefer too many pictures over too few, is
that I
> more or less often get surprised by pictures I wouldn't consider keepers
at
> the time of shooting, but do end up as keepers after culling and post
> processing. I like the serendipity of that ;-)
> 
> 
> *Frank*
> 
> 
> Op do 15 okt. 2020 om 22:49 schreef Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > Since I originated this thread a week ago, I guess I should respond.
> > It's been interesting reading all of the comments.
> >
> > Ken, I don't have your wide choice of scenery, but I do subscribe to
> > your approach.  My lowly insect subjects are subject to the same types
> > of problems that you quote, i.e., movement, missed focus, poor
> > framing, etc., etc.  I frequently shoot 20 or 30 frames in order to
> > get a couple of keepers, and I'm out for less than half an hour.  I
> > can imagine what you must shoot in a six hour hike.  Since
> > mega-pickles are very inexpensive, I see nothing wrong with making the
> > final choice and composition at the computer, where the view of the
> > image is much, much better.  YMMV.
> >
> > On 10/15/20 3:28 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
> > > Gatling Gun Wayne wrote:
> > >> What I like most about the stacking method is ability to use wider
> > F-stop, rendering the background bokeh better. F11 bokeh is hit or
> > miss, hence best used when including the distance, as in Mike's great
> > shot. Ahh digital, the ability to easily take 36 shots and stack them.
> > > We could take 36 shots in the film era, but then each resulting
> > > picture had a film/processing cost of about $30 USD.
> > >
> > > Because of that, I was EXTREMELY efficient with my photography and
> > > got to the point where my "pre editing" was detrimental to getting
> > > the shot I actually wanted. It was certainly a case of "perfect is
> > > the enemy of the good."
> > >
> > > These days, I'm absolutely insane with my shooting and will
> > > frequently fill up card after card in order to get the shot I really
> > > want. I criticize myself for being, ahem, sloppy, but the reality is
> > > that I am familiar with the various failure rates of my photography,
> > > so overshooting is an important part of the equation in order to
> > > make sure I get the shot. Sometimes the focus is off, sometimes the
> > > framing is off, sometimes there is motion blur when the
> > > image-stabilization decides to go ADHD right in the middle of a
> > > shot. The majority of my issues relate to one specific issue,
> > > though: viewfinders! With the old OM system, I could get exactly
> > > what I wanted (especially with the 1-4
> > > screen) and critical focus was not only relatively easy to achieve,
> > > but the bokeh traits of the screen encouraged a different artistic
> > > interpretation. Most of my cameras (including the Sony) have
> > > viewfinders that at best can be described as framing tools. There is
> > > nothing immersive about the experience. However, the E-3 actually is
> > > pretty good for a digital camera.
> > >
> > > When it comes to my selects, it's not too hard to sort through 100+
> > > pictures of the same thing. (yes, it happens). As I'm shooting, I'm
> > > making mental notes of how I shot and which picture might be my
> > > select. In Lightroom, I jump to that one, take a look and if it
> > > isn't quite right, I'll look at the adjacent ones to see if there is
> > > improvement. I'd say that as a general rule, if I take five pictures
> > > of something, one will be a complete tosser, one will be "usable",
> > > two more will be very good, and one might be exceptional. My goal is
> > > to eliminate the tossers and leave the rest in place, until if/when
> > > I go back through at some point to further thin the herd. In
> > > reality, I look at my time in Lightroom finding my selects as the
> > > second half of the actual shooting process. In the film era, 100% of
> > > the shooting process was getting the picture into the camera, but
> > > today, I look at the capture time as only a means to provide enough
> > > options to "reshoot" it in the computer.
> > >
> > > AG Schnozz
> >
> > --
> > Jim Nichols
> > Tullahoma, TN USA
> >
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