On 9/30/2020 8:13 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
At 9/29/2020 09:48 PM, Moose wrote:
I don't THINK this is what Mike is referring to. He refers to a difference that
is immediately visible on the camera LCD; something microcontrast-ish,
accutance-ish, shape of edge contrast transition-ish.
In fact, the discussions of 3D on FMiranda seem to freely mix photos that are
wonderful examples of background blurring/bokeh with those that may have the
arcane magic to which Mike refers, and especially those taken with that paragon
of 3D, the C/Y 35-70.
So Mike, got a couple of ideal specs for getting the effect, subject, FL, focal
distance, background distance, aperture, and ???
...Micro-contrast and near focal plane OOF characteristics. You're not 3D blind.
So background separation from the subject is not the lens 3D-pop being referred
to.
This sample photo from a canyon 180mm macro has 3D-ness but not the pop.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bbXUuMLxCkv2tns17
Longer focal length lenses would then be more likely to create 3Dness.
As to "visible on the camera LCD" I question that.
Just quoting Mike:
On 9/6/2020 7:46 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
My impression of microcontrast as it applies to the Zeiss C/Y 35-70 is contrast
in the 20-30 pixel radius range (at least when I played around with images
on the 5DII) It is not a subtle phenomenon
As I said one can spot that the lens was used on the little LCD on the back of
the cam. (An aside--should LCE radius be changed in PS for very high
megapickel cams?) 3D pop is very subjective but you know it when you see it.
On 9/13/2020 12:22 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
The other lenses used with the same in cam processing don't measure up in the
microcontrast category.
Magic Lens Hunter - WayneS
Moi Aussi* Moose
* But not Antipodean
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