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Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Win10 anyone?
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:28:15 -0400
Microsoft is offering Win 10 for free since they seem to have changed their business model to be more like Google than Google. Win 10, as it comes out of the box, is designed to strip you of all personal privacy. You even give it permission to take (unspecified) things from your own PC. Turning these permissions off is not something easily done as they are distributed around in multiple places. If, for example, you want to use Cortana you must have a Microsoft account. But the cost of a Microsoft account is measured in lost privacy, not money.

Unfortunately, I'm traveling and don't have my references for these allegations with me. But all have been pulled from reliable PC-related sites as a result of Win 10 reviews.

I and 5 other people have formed a group of computer helpers to give computer advice and assistance to our group of about 400 couples in our 55+ retirement community. We have specifically advised them to wait for some considerable time before buying a new machine or converting to Win 10. About the only thing we're really seen of value in Win 10 is the personal recognition devices (finger print reader and infra-red facial ID camera from Intel). These are designed to get away from passwords. The problem is you won't get this stuff without a new computer... not from an upgrade on your current hardware.

There are also numerous compatibility concerns (like forcibly taking control of all photo related image file types) for use by the new Win photo app. And, of course, loss of XP mode (which actually went away with Win 8) and what else... we don't know and won't for a long time.

The bottom line... for a Win 7 user... it's almost all negative or unknown and practically nothing positive. Why do it?

Chuck Norcutt


On 8/8/2015 6:48 PM, Moose wrote:
On 8/8/2015 1:07 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
Anyone tried Win10 yet?

I'm on the list, but don't think I will be upgrading any time soon. I
didn't realize that Win10 drops the virtual XP box option.

My only, occasional client for consulting is my old employer. The app I
support is now ancient, and uses a 16 bit development environment. I
could give it up without much loss, although the mad money can help
support my photography GAS. It can output 32 bit .exes that run fine
under Win7/64.

But it's something I developed myself, from scratch, completely outside
of IS that after so many years has not just survived a corporate
takeover, but worked its way into the acquiring company for use by top
management. (Hee, hee, hee.)

It would seem churlish to abandon my baby, now young adult, now, in its
moment of triumph. :-)

So I need and XP machine or environment. The virtual one in Win7Pro is
so solid, reliable and trouble free, an actual full XP install in a box,
that I hesitate to try anything else.

I must say I like Win7.

As do I. The reviews of 10 I've read seem to say that it's mostly a
return of the 7 UI with touch capability and a few improvements and
add-ons that don't seem important, or even useful, to me.

I think MS offering the free upgrade is proof of how poorly 8 has
succeeded. I imagine they have nightmares of 7 becoming like XP, the
version that won't die.

Seven Come Eleven Moose

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