There's quite a lot of disagreement about the paper's assertions, from what
I gather. Those of you who use Google+ might be interested in Brian
Koberlein's discussion of it, here:
https://plus.google.com/100479352836033641546/posts/7jdCNVdAUpz
Brian is well worth "Following" on G+, for very cogent posts on physics,
especially astrophysics. and he's got the credentials to back up what he
has to say. :-)
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus <
olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Say what??? NO, Zero, nadda, Black Holes!!!??? Where are the physicists
> here?
>
> My first reaction to some of the conclusions stated in the link was:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_
> Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg
>
> It is very interesting work nonetheless and I appreciate the link. It is
> yet to be peer reviewed it seems but extends the works of others
> investigating the firewall paradox.
>
> I suspect the title and some of the interpretations are hyperbolic and an
> example of "link-bait." (worked for me)
>
> Observationally there are infrared signatures of "lotsa" (numerical term
> adopted from butterfly observations of Cabbage Whites) black holes and
> incontrovertible evidence of supermassive black holes at the center of our
> galaxy and other galaxies and even stellar mass black holes, whose presence
> or at least method of formation is called into question by this elegant
> work. The work assumes that the Hawking firewall explanantion is correct
> and that is by no means confirmed. The major problem is that relativity and
> quantum mechanics predict vastly different conditions at the event
> horizon--yet to be reconciled.
>
>
> "Calculations showed that having information flowing out of a black hole
> was incompatible with having an otherwise smooth Einsteinian space-time at
> its boundary, the event horizon. In its place would be a discontinuity in
> the vacuum that would manifest itself as energetic particles — a “firewall”
> — lurking just inside the black hole.
>
> Being incinerated as you entered a black hole would certainly contradict
> Einstein’s dictum of no drama" see:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/science/space/a-black-
> hole-mystery-wrapped-in-a-firewall-paradox.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
>
>
> To further elucidate this paradox I would refer you to Moose, as a
> Berkeley physics major and who has photographic evidence of the happenings
> at the event horizon. (As per usual anything of import has made it to the
> OM list.)
>
> http://lists.tako.de/Olympus-OM/2014-08/msg00002.html
>
> I stand by my original interpretation of Moose's visual conundrum and
> dismiss his final revelation as a futile means to divert cotroversy.
>
>
> Imprisoned in the Black Hole of work at the office, Mike
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