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Re: [OM] Mail Delivery

Subject: Re: [OM] Mail Delivery
From: Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 13:52:12 +0100
Yes but John asked FOR_TRANslation.

Piers, who thinks F77 is the latest bestest compared to FIV.
On 3 May 2014 12:24, "Philippe" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Basic (sic) local humour ;-)
>
> Amities
> Philippe
>
> Le 3 mai 2014 à 13:20, Jez Cunningham <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> > Tres amusant Philippe!!!
> >
> >
> > On 3 May 2014 11:45, Philippe <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> 10) Tina is in trouble
> >> 20) David says she must contact her ISP
> >> REM cross fingers AND wait
> >> End of File
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Amities
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 3 mai 2014 à 12:37, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Can someone please re-write the undernoted message from OZ into
> >> comprehensive non-technically oriented English. As it stands it is
> babble.]
> >>>
> >>> jh
> >>>
> >>> On 5/3/2014 6:22 AM, David Thatcher wrote:
> >>>> Tina,
> >>>>
> >>>> this is an MTA (mail transfer agent) level failure, (typically people
> >>>> use mail user agents like eudora/thunderbird/outlook/mutt/pine or one
> of
> >>>> the many webmail processes to generate their mail, and these MUAs
> >>>> deliver to an MTA at the user's ISP).
> >>>>
> >>>> It looks like the comporium.net mail exchanger server (MX) is
> >>>> misconfigured, unwell, a bit draconian about who can send mail to it,
> or
> >>>> it's DNS servers may be slow. The HELO (or extended hello: EHLO) is
> the
> >>>> second part of the mail transfer conversation, and the 'client' MTA is
> >>>> expecting a '250'  welcome-type response from the comporium 'server'.
> It
> >>>> appears this is not happening within a reasonable amount of time. It
> is
> >>>> fairly common for MTAs to check the domain name offered in the HELO
> >>>> against the internet address (helping to make a decision about how
> >>>> SPAMmy the message is) before responding, but if the domain lookup
> takes
> >>>> too long an MTA can give up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The 451 is a 'temporary local processing failure' and the reporting
> MTA
> >>>> (google?) will keep trying up until the mail timeout. This timeout is
> >>>> often 4 days by default - which is why I think it's imprudent to try
> to
> >>>> do urgent business by e-mail, but many of my my clients disagree  and
> >>>> then whine bitterly *via e-mail* when their e-mail is broken for
> reasons
> >>>> outside of their (and our) control :).
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd imagine you need to seek the support of your ISP helpdesk at this
> >>>> point.
> >>>>
> >>>> davidt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 08:07:52PM -0400, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>>> All of my mail is resulting in this message:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "This is  automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
> >>>>>
> >>>>> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Technical details of temporary failure:
> >>>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> >> server for
> >>>>> the recipient domain comporium.net by
> >> d51502b.ess.barracudanetworks.com.
> >>>>> [64.235.150.197].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The error that the other server returned was:
> >>>>> 451 No response to HELO/EHLO"
> >>>>
> >>>
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