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Subject: Re: [OM] Mail Delivery
From: Philippe <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 13:24:50 +0200
Basic (sic) local humour ;-)

Amities
Philippe

Le 3 mai 2014 à 13:20, Jez Cunningham <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Tres amusant Philippe!!!
> 
> 
> On 3 May 2014 11:45, Philippe <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> 10) Tina is in trouble
>> 20) David says she must contact her ISP
>> REM cross fingers AND wait
>> End of File
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Amities
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 3 mai 2014 à 12:37, John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Can someone please re-write the undernoted message from OZ into
>> comprehensive non-technically oriented English. As it stands it is babble.]
>>> 
>>> jh
>>> 
>>> On 5/3/2014 6:22 AM, David Thatcher wrote:
>>>> Tina,
>>>> 
>>>> this is an MTA (mail transfer agent) level failure, (typically people
>>>> use mail user agents like eudora/thunderbird/outlook/mutt/pine or one of
>>>> the many webmail processes to generate their mail, and these MUAs
>>>> deliver to an MTA at the user's ISP).
>>>> 
>>>> It looks like the comporium.net mail exchanger server (MX) is
>>>> misconfigured, unwell, a bit draconian about who can send mail to it, or
>>>> it's DNS servers may be slow. The HELO (or extended hello: EHLO) is the
>>>> second part of the mail transfer conversation, and the 'client' MTA is
>>>> expecting a '250'  welcome-type response from the comporium 'server'. It
>>>> appears this is not happening within a reasonable amount of time. It is
>>>> fairly common for MTAs to check the domain name offered in the HELO
>>>> against the internet address (helping to make a decision about how
>>>> SPAMmy the message is) before responding, but if the domain lookup takes
>>>> too long an MTA can give up.
>>>> 
>>>> The 451 is a 'temporary local processing failure' and the reporting MTA
>>>> (google?) will keep trying up until the mail timeout. This timeout is
>>>> often 4 days by default - which is why I think it's imprudent to try to
>>>> do urgent business by e-mail, but many of my my clients disagree  and
>>>> then whine bitterly *via e-mail* when their e-mail is broken for reasons
>>>> outside of their (and our) control :).
>>>> 
>>>> I'd imagine you need to seek the support of your ISP helpdesk at this
>>>> point.
>>>> 
>>>> davidt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 08:07:52PM -0400, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>> All of my mail is resulting in this message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "This is  automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>>>>> 
>>>>> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
>>>>> 
>>>>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Technical details of temporary failure:
>>>>> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>> server for
>>>>> the recipient domain comporium.net by
>> d51502b.ess.barracudanetworks.com.
>>>>> [64.235.150.197].
>>>>> 
>>>>> The error that the other server returned was:
>>>>> 451 No response to HELO/EHLO"
>>>> 
>>> 
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