On 3/4/2014 4:23 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
> Moose wrote:
>> For women, in particular, which seems to me to be where this started, many
>> mainstream religions here are completely
>> gender blind. I know a few women ministers and a candidate as close friends.
>> They have never mentioned to me or my wife
>> any hint of feeling oppressed or 'less than' males in their churches.
> Well, we've come a long ways, but there is still the occasional
> oppression. My wife is a minister in a particular (and rather popular)
> brand of church where female ministers were among the founding of it a
> hundred years ago. Some of the biggest and most respected names in the
> organization are/were women. However, on the local level, sexism still
> exists. I won't get into the other types of oppression that occur in
> ANY group of individuals, no matter religion, creed, etc. Christianity
> itself teaches equality among the sexes.
Your brand. Last I heard, the Catholics, Mormons, most Baptists and ... stood
firm on second class status for women.
They can twist words any way they want, and some of them are very good at it.
But until priesthood and all other offices
are open to women, it's just noise.
My mother was a good Mormon (and person), with whom I was reconciled and by
whom I was accepted as spiritually OK long
before her death. Although we never argued religion, she continued to support
the position that women should not be
allowed into priesthood, and thus direct, public leadership.
> Religion enforces cultural stereotypes.
No, Really? ;-)
> ...
>
>> In that sense, the contrast to the situation of women in some Muslim
>> countries is pretty great. Perhaps AG should have been more specific in his
>> comment. Given the image that prompted it, though ...
> Exactly. I thought that the picture was worth "a thousand words" and
> wouldn't require my repeating them.
As did I. :-)
Moose
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