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Re: [OM] Brand Shift - The Sequel

Subject: Re: [OM] Brand Shift - The Sequel
From: Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:15:03 -0500
My digital story:

Before Leica came out with a digital camera:  Canon 1DMII, Canon 5D

Leica M8
Leica R9/DMR
Leica M9
Leica MM
Leica M(240)

Thank goodness, all Leica digital cameras use my old Leica film lenses.

Tina


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>wrote:

> Ken,
>
> I don't know if this may help answer the question, yet here is my
> digital story so far:
>
> Pana L1 - takes superb pseudo leica glass and real R glass - an
> extremely sweet machine-human interface - the only one to have focus
> confirmation with non native glass, Live View, etc. back then when
> Canon* had serious problems with non native lenses metering BTW.
> Pana G1 - for fun - not up to the L1.
> E-Olies - 400, 410, 510, 620 nice, even VERY nice glass for some of
> them - limited sensor in size and DR though
> D700 FF and so so glass - sharp but lots of distortion - yet takes R
> glass and provides excellent high ISO
> fuji X10 as a pocketable cam to take anywhere without fuss - nice toy
> to play with - and in truth I liked the look - Alice is still very
> fond of it BTW.
> X-E1 light, and nearly a camera by my old standards - aperture rings
> etc.  And the files nearly as good as the D700's -more difficult to
> process though and less "flexible" than Nikon's - the EVF requires
> some getting used to but is workable
> X-T1 - waiting for it to be sold here - the EVF is what will make me
> want to upgrade
>
> Amities
> Flash-what-for Philippe**
>
> * the worst interface any company could come up with IMHO. I love
> crowns and buttons and hate displays and wheels, so it's back to the
> XT-1 or the Df ...
> ** what I mean is that with modern sensors you don't really need any,
> do you?
>
>
>
>
> Le 12 févr. 14 à 20:29, Ken Norton a écrit :
>
> > It appears to me that there has been a marked brand shift, again,
> > amongst this group. Since my initial joining this list, I think this
> > is the third MAJOR change. Here are my observations:
> >
> > Late 1990's - OM System Swan Song (boiled). Nikon, Minolta and Canon
> > are ruling the roost with new AF cameras and fully modal control
> > design. Fill Flash technology becomes the deciding factor for many.
> > Nikon gains the greatest conversion from the Oly crowd, but Canon is
> > pretty close. Others make the shift to Minolta and Contax. Failure to
> > have any AF camera was certainly an issue, but failure to implement
> > fill-flash control was another.
> >
> > Mid 2000's - E-1 System Swan Song (baked). The E-system had initial
> > troubles because of the dinky sensor and failure to adequately embrace
> > prior system lenses. Not many lenses was a complaint, but unfounded.
> > Flash system very good. But Olympus failed to be competitive with AF
> > speeds and sensor technology. They were trying to sell a 5MP CCD
> > against 8MP CMOS. A huge migration to Canon resulted and combined with
> > adapters, old Olympus OM lenses were somewhat supported.
> >
> > Late 2000's - The last remaining straggler sold his Olympus gear and
> > bought a Full-frame Nikon kit.
> >
> > Early 2010's - Micro Four-Thirds recovers a lot of "lost souls".
> > Finally, the dinky sensor is getting some respect. People are buying
> > them as "second systems". But is this a short-term gain? Sony and
> > Fujifilm making noise. Canon hasn't been heard from for ages.
> >
> > Mid 2010's - Fujifilm nails it again and again. The new migration,
> > started in the midst of the m43 revolution, is to the X-series cameras
> > and lenses. The question is whether this is from m43 buyers or from
> > other brands to the Fujifilm cameras? I think it's more a case where
> > people are switching from their, now old, DSLR systems to the new
> > (classic) style cameras. This is a case where Fujifilm just seems to
> > be doing it better.
> >
> > I am making the observation that the "new" DSLR systems that we all
> > bought in the 2000's are now "old" and the owners ready for a totally
> > "new shiny". Fujifilm seems to be the one that is capturing the hearts
> > of the buyers.
> >
> > This brings up the question about Canon and Nikon, but especially
> > Canon. If Canon is now the "Dad's Oldsmobile" system, what can Canon
> > due to stop the bleeding and be the new kid on the block again? How
> > does Canon prevent being the next "Blackberry"?
> >
> > Anyway, this is just my observation that this list is embracing the
> > X-series of cameras like we did the Canon 20D ten years ago and the
> > F100 twenty years ago. I may be wrong, but I haven't seen this much
> > uniformity of camera system migration on this list since those two
> > cameras.
> >
> > One thing for sure. If this is the case, I won't be left behind a
> > third time. I've got an X-body in my B&W cart just waiting.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Norton
> > ken@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.zone-10.com
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